Montenegrin Serb connection.

[Dun93]

They are simply Serbicized Albanians. Some of them even know their surnames from centuries back.

Source: my wise father.

When did i said that ?

[Shqipez]

If you guys want serious duscussion, I am all for it.
Montenegro is romanticised Serbian Sparta, place where during Ottoman occupation of Balkans people were fueled by myths and legends of fallen Serbian knights and glory of medieval Serbian realm. It helped them preserve religion, culture and partial autonomy. If there was not Montenegrins, than Sebia and Bosnia would probably been shapen differently, since all acts of rebelions were started in Mobtenegro.
It is imposible to separate us from Serbians because we are one, the exchange of populations happened way to many times that it is imposible to tell who hails from Serbia or Montenegro. There is a saying that every Serbian has at least one Montenegrin grandfather.
When it comes ti ethnic identification, we are highly egoistic people with superiority complex which led to recent creation of separate ethnicity and divided families and whole country on two parts- ethnic Serbs and ethnic Montenegrins.
I don't think it is really important thing for this topic since we all know basicaly what it is all about.
Albanian admixture in Montenegro is something that common people never heard of, especialy not in versions that some people here might constantly repeat.
There are no records or sources to confirm it and I am highly sceptical about it.
On the other side, native admixture is strong, there are numerous sources mentioning different Romanised people living in area of modern Montenegro alongside with Slavs and those people didn't hust disapear. they were assimilated and tgat is the whole story.
Probably some Albanians too.
My topic with texts connected to this thread
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...al-development

''Some Albanians'' no... there couldn't of lived 43 Albanians in todays Albania and some in metohija and montenegro,.. there couldn't of been that little people while the rest Serbs, demographics at that time are based on religion and names rather than true ethnicities.

Nobody is trying to seperate you but some Serb montenigrin tribes have Albanian ancestry, the clans speak for themselves. Also allot of indigenous populations have been asimilated, it speaks for itself because this also has happened in every other country from Scandinavia to America.

And some of these asimilations weren't even peaceful, because most wanna practice their own culture, speak their language, carry their own names and surnames instead of the occupiers etc. And not all of these were romanised people, allot were Albanians actually living in metohija, montenegro, albania etc., but written down as Serbs by orthodox religion and slavic surnames. Demographics from that time speak for themselves.

besides, in my eyes, there is really no such thing as ''montenigrin'' in my eyes it's just another made up country created by slavs. Also the noble families of Zeta weren't romanised origin, if you see some Albanians in montenegro today they carry the same surnames as noble people who ruled Zeta during Kastriotis and Dukagjini families time.

The Norwegians in norway have also been accused earlier on for Norweginization of the Samis, and have later apologized for that, today the Samis are a protected indigenous people and can practice their culture freely without being persecuted.

Also take a look at Serbian orthodox religion and you'll see it's influenced majorly by Albanian

[Vukodav]

They are simply Serbicized Albanians. Some of them even know their surnames from centuries back.
Source: my wise father.
When did i said

popular type of urban legends on Balkans which are product of our own ignorance and lack of knowledge about neighbouring people and countries.
one such legend claims that half of Ghegs still speak Serbian and celebrate Slava. I find it hard to believe TBH.

[Vukodav]

Nobody is trying to seperate you but some Serb montenigrin tribes have Albanian ancestry, the clans speak for themselves. Also allot of indigenous populations have been asimilated, it speaks for itself because this also has happened in every other country from Scandinavia to America.

And some of these asimilations weren't even peaceful, because most wanna practice their own culture, speak their language, carry their own names and surnames instead of the occupiers etc. And not all of these were romanised people, allot were Albanians actually, but written down as Serbs by orthodox religion and slavic surnames. Demographics from that time speak for themselves.

The Norwegians in norway have also been accused earlier on for Norweginization of the Samis, and have later apologized for that, today the Samis are a protected indigenous people and can practice their culture freely without being persecuted.

I never found an actual proof that some Albanian and some Serbian clans have same origin, let aside that our clans originate frim Albanian ones.
Believe me, I ceased to be nationalist long time ago and I tend to look at history from a non-biased stance.
What is obvious is that there was common exchange of customs and culture between neighbouring tribes but everything else falls into range of legends and myths.

[Dema]

Same as Serbs

[Vožd]

Montenegrins and Serbs like Romanians and Moldavians no difference between. Montenegrins in history was ethnic Serbs, separate in 1945. at creation of republics in socialist regime.