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[Grenzland]

The saddam's baath party is arab fascist, basically nazi-lite.

Where the hell do you live?

[Iron Sheik]

Where the hell do you live?

Irrelevant. But i dont see where i am incorrect. The baath ideology was inspired by the nazi and italian fascists according to the founder of the ideology himself who was a student at the sorbonne. Michel aflaq. A lebanese maronite and founder of baathism. Was greatly influencer by nazi germany.
Saddam applied a more mild versions of lebensraum and Stalins deportations. Liquidation of enemiea. Anti communism. the concept of the arab race. Systematic and deliberate deportation and ethnic cleansing of people's deemed undesirable or a danger to the state. These are all actions and concepts he borrowed from hitler and stalin. He himself openly declared admiration for both figures.

[Grenzland]

What about them? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_...ionalist_Party

They are way more similar to NS. Fascism is even less comparable because they lack the leftist elements. Baathism is just a 3rd Way ideology. And of course they were all influenced by European persons and ideologies because the leaders all studied in Europe but no ideology was applied in its original form, not even Marxism.

[Iron Sheik]

What about them? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_...ionalist_Party


They are way more similar to NS. Fascism is even less comparable because they lack the leftist elements. Baathism is just a 3rd Way ideology. And of course they were all influenced by European persons and ideologies because the leaders all studied in Europe but no ideology was applied in its original form, not even Marxism.

Uh. Yes. But where hasn't there been regional differences? Where has there been any idea that is consistent unless were talking about universal concepts like math or science? All ideas are adapted to their time, place and conditions. Both intrinsic or external. They weren't nazi germany. But they borrowed and copied alot from there.

[StonyArabia]

Show us some dna evidence. You know there are several iraqis tested. Why are you not posting them?

The Iraqi Arab from the North matches well with Assyrians, the Iraqi Arab from Baghdad seem to be the same but with Iranian influence, well the Southern Iraqi Arab, who actually belongs to one of the Bedouin tribes is very Bedouin/Arabian like. The vast majority of Iraqis would be like the latter, with the exception of far Northern Iraqis Sunni Arabs, well those of the West would resemble Jordanians who are in turn are an Arabian subset population as well. History shows that Iraq went through a large demographic shift in favor of the Bedouins, today Iraq lost that character due to the extensive missionary work of the Lebo-Persian clergy, and the influence of the shrine cities. There also another Iraqi, me and I am not representative since I have Caucasus-Anatolian admix on the paternal line, but the maternal line seems very Arabian/Bedouin like.

[Iron Sheik]

The Iraqi Arab from the North matches well with Assyrians, the Iraqi Arab from Baghdad seem to be the same but with Iranian influence, well the Southern Iraqi Arab, who actually belongs to one of the Bedouin tribes is very Bedouin/Arabian like. The vast majority of Iraqis would be like the latter, with the exception of far Northern Iraqis Sunni Arabs, well those of the West would resemble Jordanians who are in turn are an Arabian subset population as well. History shows that Iraq went through a large demographic shift in favor of the Bedouins, today Iraq lost that character due to the extensive missionary work of the Lebo-Persian clergy, and the influence of the shrine cities. There also another Iraqi, me and I am not representative since I have Caucasus-Anatolian admix on the paternal line, but the maternal line seems very Arabian/Bedouin like.

So you base this on a sample of 2? LOL. I've looked at some, and only the south seems to be consistent with what you claim. perhaps also anbar.

[Grenzland]

Nabatea, may it be that you know nearly nothing about Arabia? Not the first time this attracts my attention...

What's next? Iranians are Bedouins too and the old arch enemy of all Bedouins (Hezbollah according too you) attacks it self?

[StonyArabia]

So you base this on a sample of 2? LOL. I've looked at some, and only the south seems to be consistent with what you claim. perhaps also anbar.

Like I said western Iraq and the South are of Bedouin origins, but Northern Iraqis are not and they seem to mostly descent from Arabized locals. There is nothing much in common between a Southern Iraqi and Northern Iraqi in culture, linguistic, and traditions, they originally shared the same sectarian affiliation before the rise of the Lebo-Persian clergy, and their missionary work which converted a large amount of Bedouin tribes in the South to Shiaism, however the nomadic tribes in the South rejected conversion and continued on their own ways. The same is true of western Iraq in which Shia missionaries were active, but had no success.

[Iron Sheik]

Like I said western Iraq and the South are of Bedouin origins, but Northern Iraqis are not and they seem to mostly descent from Arabized locals. There is nothing much in common between a Southern Iraqi and Northern Iraqi in culture, linguistic, and traditions, they originally shared the same sectarian affiliation before the rise of the Lebo-Persian clergy, and their missionary work which converted a large amount of Bedouin tribes in the South to Shiaism, however the nomadic tribes in the South rejected conversion and continued on their own ways. The same is true of western Iraq in which Shia missionaries were active, but had no success.

Let the science speak for itself. Get more iraqi samples.

[StonyArabia]

Let the science speak for itself. Get more iraqi samples.

No need, because science and geneology proves what I am saying as well the demographic shift due to the barbaric Mongol and Timurid invasions.