How would you defend your home?

[Tyrrhenoi]

I've read about a terrible situations in which armed (non europide) burglars, forced an entrance, while the owners of the house were asleep. The residents were beaten and robbed by those 'apes', these poor people were unable to defend theirself. The robbers had (real?) guns and knives.

In fact this could happen to you and your family. My question to you is: what would you do?

Should it be possible for civilians to have weapons at home? And use those weapons if your family is in danger? like in the US?

What's your opinion?

[Svanhild]

I'm afraid that I couldn't do much. But I've pepper spray in my handbad and a rather long kitchen knife in a drawer next to my bed. If it comes to the worst I'm at least a bit prepared. And I know my flat better than anyone. That's a similar kitchen knife to mine:

[Beorn]

.... with a sweeper formation.

[Tyrrhenoi]

Yeah well, by weapons I meant firearms.

And if firearms use in homes should be allowed in europe... and if so... in which situations? if the residents are in danger? of only if someone is trying to enter the building? If you are threatened etc. etc. When is it ethical to use a firearm and kill?

I think this is a pretty serious question.

[Nodens]

Per Anglo-Saxon Common Law, it is the right any duty of every able bodied freeman to keep and bear arms.

As to self-defense, no Duty to Retreat.

Addendum: I personally have ample knives/blades in easy reach that the rifles would likely be unnecessary.

[Germanicus]

Probably i would unleash HELL.




Then call the police.

[Bloodeagle]

If I did not have the right to bear arms as many Europeans do not:
1. I would be more proficient in the martial arts.
2. ... secure my dwelling by controlling key access points.
3. ... not flash around my belongings.
4. ... have a loyal sentry dog like Germanicus has.
5. ... keep a light on at all times.
6. ... arm myself with baseball bats or their equivalent, keep an armory of swords, daggers, pike and spear and keep a cross bow if allowed.
7. Most importantly have a large hole dug for such an occasion.
The legal ramifications of your successful deterrence might leave you wishing you had been robbed and molested rather than branded a calculating murderer.

[Turkophagos]

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[Tyrrhenoi]

In the Dutch law, when someone is in danger, that person only can defend himself IF he is beaten by someone or the attacker hurts another person.
Then he/she can appeal on 'noodweer' (self defence). A threat is not enough!

To appeal for 'noodweer' the defence must suffice on certain conditions:

1st: Subsidiarity = if it can be solved by some other manner than violence -
(for example by running away - hideing etc.)

2de: Proportionality: the violence you will use against your attacker must be proporional to the violence the attacker inflicted to you!

Conclusion: You must almost be beaten to dead, to kill a burglar with a weapon. If you kill the burglar and he did not attack you, or had no intention to kill you - you will end up in jail! In certain cases in Holland the home owner, was forced by the court to pay compensation to the burglar!!!