Are British just Iberians without Moorish admixture?

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

Yes, British people are pale skinned Iberians with additional foreign influences.

Interesting. So people are disagreeing with Graham?

[Sikeliot]

It's the answer I was looking for thanks Sikeliot. But the Irish are even closer than the British to Iberians. Because Ireland was isolated for so long in history.

Not true actually -- on Oracle, Iberians always get English -- especially SW England/Cornwall -- before Irish.

[Thunder_shock]

The British and Spanish are not related at least relatively speaking as two European populations. They had significantly different degree of admixture from Indo Europeans and neolithic people whom arrived in Europe.

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

The other day I was watching a show on TV about English doing business in Spain and South France. The difference from the Iberians and English was quite noticeable. The southern French people were closer to Iberians. In both places the English stood out.

Probably because they have Anglo-Saxon blood mixed in, and because Iberians of today have African DNA whereas British do not.

[Dylan]

They are Iberians without the moorish (north african) ancestry and with an additional scando component of about 10%.

Here will come grace o malley again I am sure, to defend her peepuh from being associated with darker spaniards, but that's the truth.

As for having a different clade of r1b than basques LOL that means less than nothing. The split between basque and northern celtic is about one tenth as the distance between the celtic and scando components, but no one stans there and says that they are completely unrleated to english.

Irish americans often also match well to basques. Which was probably the case for Irish in general before mixing with english and lowland scots like crazy.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/1256894.stm
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/05/sc...pagewanted=all

And here are two credible sources that explain this basque connection!!!
"On the Y-Chromosome the Celts turn out to be statistically indistinguishable from the Basques"

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

Not true actually -- on Oracle, Iberians always get English -- especially SW England/Cornwall -- before Irish.

That's close to Wales...so basically the Welsh are closer to them then. Of course, the English themselves have this blood too, Anglo-Saxons mixed with Welsh.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Yes, British people are pale skinned Iberians with additional foreign influences.

Unmixed Iberians are pale, too, and red hair and light eyes are common. There's plenty in basque territories.

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/1256894.stm
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/05/sc...pagewanted=all

And here are two credible sources that explain this basque connection!!!
"On the Y-Chromosome the Celts turn out to be statistically indistinguishable from the Basques"

Thank you for your contribution to the thread Dylan, very interesting to read!!

[Imamudin]

The other day I was watching a show on TV about English doing business in Spain and South France. The difference from the Iberians and English was quite noticeable. The southern French people were closer to Iberians. In both places the English stood out.

They differ in looks a bit because they have developed in another direction, with the English and British who have mixed with all kind of people who came to Britain.

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

So being Irish-American really, my closest genetic cousins in the world are the modern Basque people. That's really interesting

BLOOD BROTHERS!!