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    Proto-Germanic was supposedly the "least Indo-European" language among its relatives. I have heard some theories where the odd influence came from...

    1. Paleo-European languages spoken in Scandinavia

    2. Finnic languages that arrived to northern Europe at the same time

    3. Proto-Germanic was simply progressive

    What do you think?

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    As for expansion into Europe, it was carried out by the tribes who lived in the more western areas of the pit culture (c. 3300-2800 BC.). It was there that lived carriers of subclades R1b1a2a1, which occurred as well as carriers of Samara subclades R1b1a2a2, from Samara Mesolithic hunter who lived approx. 5500 BC Apparently, they, as I have already pointed out, were the first who brought to Central Europe Indo-European speech, or rather, it Italo-Celtic branch, and first created the Baden archaeological culture, and then Globular Amphora culture. A few centuries later from a different (northern?) area of ​​the Yamna culture was a new wave of migration of Indo-European tribes who spoke the language of the Balto-Slavic branch and were mostly carriers of haplogroup R1a. In the north of Central Europe, it is superimposed on the Italo-Celtic language substrate and gave rise to Germanic language.

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    Germanic/Scandinavian languages are indigenous European ancient languages.

    The most obvious linguistic marker is the s-c-k consonant tonal shift. In Southern European languages (Latin), "C" shifts toward "s" sound. In Northern European languages (German), "C" shifts toward "k" sound.

    For example: Keltic can be written "celtic" or "keltic", and prounounced either s-eltic or k-eltic.

    Another example: civitas in latin, s-ivitas.


    The Keltic/Germanic race/language is a direct inheritor of Northern Paleo-Europeans.

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    The people who lived in Scandinavia/Northern Germany before the Indo-European migration probably played a significant role.

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    Ay yo, BUMP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unome View Post
    Germanic/Scandinavian languages are indigenous European ancient languages.

    The most obvious linguistic marker is the s-c-k consonant tonal shift. In Southern European languages (Latin), "C" shifts toward "s" sound. In Northern European languages (German), "C" shifts toward "k" sound.

    For example: Keltic can be written "celtic" or "keltic", and prounounced either s-eltic or k-eltic.

    Another example: civitas in latin, s-ivitas.


    The Keltic/Germanic race/language is a direct inheritor of Northern Paleo-Europeans.

    Another example: civitas in latin, s-ivitas.

    totally wrong, you pronounce s-ivitas using English phonetics, but in classical Latin was pronounced "Kivitas" and in medieval Latin "Chivitas"

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