Germanic-Celtic hybrid nations

[Wulfhere]

This particular hybrid had produced some of the most successful societies in human history - the question is, why? What is it about these two groupings that together can do this? Here are some examples:

England: Brythonic Celts, Anglo-Saxons, Danes.
Scotland: Brythonic Celts, Gaelic Celts, Anglo-Saxons, Norse.
Ireland: Gaelic Celts, Norse.
Wales: Brythonic Celts, Norse.
Iceland: Gaelic Celts, Norse.
USA: English, Scots, Irish, Welsh, Germans.
Australia: English, Scots, Irish, Welsh.

[Hevneren]

This particular hybrid had produced some of the most successful societies in human history - the question is, why? What is it about these two groupings that together can do this? Here are some examples:

England: Brythonic Celts, Anglo-Saxons and Danes.
Scotland: Brythonic Celts, Gaelic Celts, Anglo-Saxons and Norse.
Ireland: Gaelic Celts, Norse.
Wales: Brythonic Celts, Norse.
Iceland: Gaelic Celts, Norse.
USA: English, Scots, Irish, Welsh, Germans.
Australia: English, Scots, Irish, Welsh.

You forgot the Jutes and Normans.

[Wulfhere]

You forgot the Jutes and Normans.

Jutes are usually understood to be included in the term Anglo-Saxon. The Normans, insofar as they were Germanic at all, were Norse.

[Hevneren]

Jutes are usually understood to be included in the term Anglo-Saxon. The Normans, insofar as they were Germanic at all, were Norse.

Jutes were separate from Anglians and Saxons, and Normans were a mix of Norse and Frankish/Gaulish people.

[Wulfhere]

Jutes were separate from Anglians and Saxons, and Normans were a mix of Norse and Frankish/Gaulish people.

Yes, I know. I was simplifying. The Normans, for example, made up such a small percentage of the population of England I didn't bother listing them - and nor for the other countries of the British Isles either.

[rhiannon]

This particular hybrid had produced some of the most successful societies in human history - the question is, why? What is it about these two groupings that together can do this? Here are some examples:

England: Brythonic Celts, Anglo-Saxons, Danes.
Scotland: Brythonic Celts, Gaelic Celts, Anglo-Saxons, Norse.
Ireland: Gaelic Celts, Norse.
Wales: Brythonic Celts, Norse.
Iceland: Gaelic Celts, Norse.
USA: English, Scots, Irish, Welsh, Germans.
Australia: English, Scots, Irish, Welsh.

What is a Brythonic Celt and why is it separate from a Gaelic Celt?

[Wulfhere]

What is a Brythonic Celt?

Someone who speaks a Brythonic language such as Welsh or Cornish, descended from British, a P-Celtic language, unlike Gaelic, which is Q-Celtic.

[research_centre]

Jutes are usually understood to be included in the term Anglo-Saxon. The Normans, insofar as they were Germanic at all, were Norse.

Good points!

[Argyll]

The Norse in Scotland, Ireland, and Wales are hardly any at all, unless, in Scotland, you go to the Northern Isles.

[Argyll]

What is a Brythonic Celt and why is it separate from a Gaelic Celt?

Shame byrnecres, shame! :nono:

Jutes were separate from Anglians and Saxons, and Normans were a mix of Norse and Frankish/Gaulish people.

So that would make the Normans part Celtic to!