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    Default Abortion?.

    Pro life or Pro choice?. State your positions and any other thoughts on the matter. This in regard to European or 'White' societies and peoples specifically.

    If you're Pro-choice for Non Whites and Pro life for Whites in our society explain your views.

    If your particular religion influences your stance, why or how?.









    (I've used 'Pro life' and 'Pro choice' because these are the widely accepted ideological standpoints.)

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    I'm pro-life for my own kind. I'm against the total abolition of abortion but I don't approve of it as a means of birth control. Ideally I would like to see a rollback in abortion rights - shortening the time limit to get one, raising the age limit that a woman could get one without parental consent etc... until they are only available in cases of rape, medical conditions that threaten the life of the mother or severe genetic deformities.

    I'm not certain when life begans. I find it difficult to assign personhood to an embryo consisting of fewer then a thousand cells. But an 8-week old fetus with a beating heart is another matter.

    As for Negroes, Latinos etc.. let them abort at will. I don't care if the Chinese or Indians allow abortion on demand. Better that then encouraging their excess population to migrate to the West.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revenant View Post
    Pro life or Pro choice?
    I'm pro-life.
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    State your positions and any other thoughts on the matter. This in regard to European or 'White' societies and peoples specifically.
    There is nothing more disgusting than the destruction of innocent life. Life begins at conception and conceptuses should be entitled to the same rights as all other people.

    God forgive anyone that believes something entirely arbitrary should mean the difference between the life and death of an innocent unborn child. God forgive anyone that doesn't appreciate the greatest thing in the Universe. God forgive anyone that doesn't love their own flesh and blood. God forgive anyone who would treat a human life as though it were refuse. God forgive everyone that has had or performed an abortion.
    Quote Originally Posted by Revenant View Post
    If you're Pro-choice for Non Whites and Pro life for Whites in our society explain your views.
    Every innocent person is entitled to life. I am first a human and second a white.

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    I am against abortion, not because I have some moral idea over the life worth of the unborn. I am against it because it allows women to not take responsibility for not keeping their legs together. Society should not take responsibility for what women do with their lives and women should damn well not expect or demand that society solves their issues when the hospitals time and money could be spent somewhere else.

    Secondly far too few children are born to our races to begin with then I can not from a folk reservist point of view defend abortion either.

    As for rape and such extremes yes kill the child and if the child is born drown it for all I care this is how ever not the normality and should not even be needed to be mentioned.

    Basically what I am saying take responsibility for your own actions.

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    I am against abortion, not because I have some moral idea over the life worth of the unborn. I am against it because it allows women to not take responsibility for not keeping their legs together. Society should not take responsibility for what women do with their lives and women should damn well not expect or demand that society solves their issues when the hospitals time and money could be spent somewhere else.
    I'm definately pro-life, but you make that sound like a baby is a punishment for a Woman acting a slut, a baby in no shape or form is a punishment or a burden on a Woman but the most prized posession she could ever gain.

    Never can I justify Abortion among our race especially during this time in our history when there is hardly any White babies being born as it is.

    In the cases of rape then maybe so so long as it's done at a very early stage and there is no beating heart!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post
    I'm not certain when life begans. I find it difficult to assign personhood to an embryo consisting of fewer then a thousand cells. But an 8-week old fetus with a beating heart is another matter.
    Why is it difficult? What is fundamentally different between that eight week old fetus and a one week old conceptus? What is fundamentally different between that eight week old fetus and a one week old newborn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pino View Post
    I'm definately pro-life, but you make that sound like a baby is a punishment for a Woman acting a slut, a baby in no shape or form is a punishment or a burden on a Woman but the most prized posession she could ever gain.

    Never can I justify Abortion among our race especially during this time in our history when there is hardly any White babies being born as it is.

    In the cases of rape then maybe so so long as it's done at a very early stage and there is no beating heart!
    I can justify it with rape victims. I have no qualms with it what so ever.

    A baby would be a punishment to those women who think they can get away with acting like sluts and I am fine with that, it is what is natural, action and consequence.

    In this society we are removing the consequence for women. That does not create healthy individuals.

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    First of all, it takes two to tango. It's all well and good to say that a woman should keep her legs shut, but a man should learn about self-control as well. If contraception doesn't come into play in the first place, they're both equally irresponsible.

    I'm pro-life, except in the case of a woman being raped. That would be a terrible burden to live with. Having said that, though, there are women out there who would endure such situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vargtand View Post
    I can justify it with rape victims. I have no qualms with it what so ever.

    A baby would be a punishment to those women who think they can get away with acting like sluts and I am fine with that, it is what is natural, action and consequence.

    In this society we are removing the consequence for women. That does not create healthy individuals.
    I dont think it creates a healthy relationship between a Mother and her child when the Child is viewed as a punishment. Going to prison is a punishment, having a Child is not a punishment and I think that Baby is not going to grow up dysfunctional when the Mother is not looking after him or her properly.

    I'm all for keeping conequences for Women, sleeping around and acting like a Slut she should be socially excluded by her community and branded a Whore, she'll never get any respect anywhere, this is what used to keep Womens legs shut in the old days, as long as society continues to accept sleeping around as a social norm it will take place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pino View Post
    I dont think it creates a healthy relationship between a Mother and her child when the Child is viewed as a punishment. Going to prison is a punishment, having a Child is not a punishment and I think that Baby is not going to grow up dysfunctional when the Mother is not looking after him or her properly.

    I'm all for keeping conequences for Women, sleeping around and acting like a Slut she should be socially excluded by her community and branded a Whore, she'll never get any respect anywhere, this is what used to keep Womens legs shut in the old days, as long as society continues to accept sleeping around as a social norm it will take place.
    Yes you deem the ideal relationship between mother and child for the past 30 years to be that much greater than the true relationship between mother and child for the past millennia’s? Children have always been a consequence, what values you place to that consequence have little bearings in the grand scheme of things. Be it a blessing or a curse it is on your shoulders to make the best of the situation you have put your self in. The best thing would of course be anything but killing the child…


    To Brynhild, as women are the party who are getting pregnant it is on their shoulders the weight should be placed, sure it takes two to tango it is still the woman who is risking the most and it is only natural that she takes responsibility for her own life.

    I am not saying that men should not take responsibility for their children quite the opposite; I encourage men to take a bigger responsibility especially for their sons.


    Edit: I've done it now eh? I've earned the badge of the big bad sexist on this forum as well? Oh well what is new under the bush.
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