Abortion?.

**Revenant** · 02-04-2009, 06:09 AM

Originally Posted by SwordoftheVistula

I don't see how that should be a surprise, given the close historical relationship between the racialist and eugenics movements.

It's a opinion (mine) that changed, re: Tollesons post above my post.

From reading other racialist boards I would have said most were pro life, that's why I was surprised, but most of the people here come from skadi apparently and that's actually one board I've never even visited.

So basically, I was surprised I was wrong.

I think most babies who are aborted by young white women and men (plenty of men convince young women to abort) are healthy, normal, probably better specimens than those who are born to the thirty pluses these days. So I don't really see it as a eugenic thing but I'm more thinking of the wider social consequences of abortion in modern society I guess (is that unrelated?).

Tolleson is saying, I think, that this thread is pointless. I think there are many many more on the board that would fall into that category much more so than this one. Who cares if people aren't changing their opinons, at least their having them and not as another poster put it awhile ago "fluffing" the place up.

**Lady L** · 02-06-2009, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Revenant

From reading other racialist boards I would have said most were pro life, that's why I was surprised

Well,

I think Southernboy might be so for pro-life that he can substitute for hmmmm...maybe by the power of 10.

but most of the people here come from skadi apparently and that's actually one board I've never even visited.

Lucky You!

I think most babies who are aborted by young white women and men (plenty of men convince young women to abort) are healthy, normal, probably better specimens than those who are born to the thirty pluses these days.

I disagree. I think 30+ individuals are more than capable than giving birth to healthy, normal children. They might even have some advantage to younger adult parents-more mature-more experiences.

Tolleson is saying, I think, that this thread is pointless.

I don't think the thread is pointless but what maybe he actually meant was that the same 2 people going on and on and on may be a little pointless ( which I am guilty of

myself ) But, we can't call the thread pointless or debating because that would make the whole board pointless and I definitely don't see that to be the case.

Personally, I respect anyones opinions but I am glad the board seems to fall a little more toward pro-choice....

After all, none of us like choices to be taken away...

**Psychonaut** · 02-06-2009, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by Mrs. Lyfing

I disagree. I think 30+ individuals are more than capable than giving birth to healthy, normal children. They might even have some advantage to younger adult parents-more mature-more experiences.

They're certainly capable, but it has been well documented that as are increases from sexual maturity, the risk of nearly every birth defect (especially Down Syndrome) increases.

**Tolleson** · 02-06-2009, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by Mrs. Lyfing

I don't think the thread is pointless but what maybe he actually meant was that the same 2 people going on and on and on may be a little pointless ( which I am guilty of

myself ) But, we can't call the thread pointless or debating because that would make the whole board pointless and I definitely don't see that to be the case.

I guess I should stick my nose in here since Rev. and Mrs. L. are trying to figure me out (Aemma has not accomplished this after 23 years).

My point is that with the subject of the thread and its emotional stirrings, once someone has expressed which camp they are from there is very little to discussion/debate. Opinions are not going to be swayed but, like other threads, the discussion carries on and people debate.

Anyway, this is just my POV. For me it is just painful to see the same things rehashed over and over again. I know that I have the choice of reading the thread or not but what the hel is a guy to bitch about anyway.

"Personally, I respect anyones opinions but I am glad the board seems to fall a little more toward pro-choice....

After all, none of us like choices to be taken away..."

Mrs L., I agree with the above.

Keep your stick on the ice.

**Lady L** · 02-07-2009, 01:53 AM

Originally Posted by Psychonaut

They're certainly capable, but it has been well documented that as are increases from sexual maturity, the risk of nearly every birth defect (especially Down Syndrome) increases.

This makes me wonder what is the results of teenagers giving birth...any risks involved at that age..? Hmm... I'm considering like 16-19 year olds ...? ( I'm to lazy to search now, but...)

**~~SwordoftheVistula~~** · 02-07-2009, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by Mrs. Lyfing

This makes me wonder what is the results of teenagers giving birth...any risks involved at that age..? Hmm... I'm considering like 16-19 year olds ...? ( I'm to lazy to search now, but...)

Physically, no. Just emotionally (picking the wrong partner and ending up a single mother) and dropping out of school and delaying education/career.

**coldielox** · 03-07-2009, 02:19 PM

i have learned a very long time ago.. that this topic i can not debate about.. i become very very very angry.. and if ya wanna know why pm me

cause im just gunna post in here once and try my hardest to give my most calm response.. lol and wont ever read here again lol.. ( yeah i kinda have a temper

)

anyways.. I am 100% against abortion.. I have been since I was a child and learned what it was. I am against it no matter who you are and where you come from.. ( i know that does not probably rub ppl the right way ... but in all actuality.. if more Aryan ppl stopped aborting, i think we wouldn't have to worry so much about losing our race)

it is not the child's fault that either you were raped, molested, some other race, or couldn't keep your damn legs closed.. thats your fault, if you desire to kill someone kill the rapist, molester.. or moron

my religion now plays a part in it too.. I am a born again christian , and I believe that Life starts at conception, hence why I'm against abortion 100% of all kinds. and sure you could say it has its medical uses.. but I am even against that.. a woman takes a chance of her life every time she gets prego, I think due to the forms of med.'s we have now.. and the clinical care we as a whole have seems to lose the idea that getting prego is still a fairly dangerous situation to put your body in.

so in conclusion.. if ya don't want a kid.. don't open your legs

* i hope this was not to insulting or disrespectful to anyone.*

**Tolleson** · 03-07-2009, 07:35 PM

Coldielox,

Typically people do not have a problem with strong opinions and can respect them.

Just as long as it is a two way street and those that have opposite opinions are treated with the same respect.

Note that I did not say "agree with", just respect for a difference of opinion.

Finally, on this topic, debate is futile. IMO

**SPQR** · 03-07-2009, 07:55 PM

I'm very pro-choice. I find it rediculous people must argue against it. Do they not have better things to worry about in their own lives than bitching about the decisions of others? It's not like Mary down the street getting an abortion is going to affect you personally, so why even care?

I am, however, opposed to abortion as a means of birth control. If you got pregnant because you can't keep your legs closed, that's your problem. But rape victims have every right in the world to abort a child they had no choice to concieve.