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    Default Why are the African races incapable of building civilizations?

    There seem to be some races, which are incapable of building civilization.
    Amongst them are the races of Africa for example, or the indigenous people of Australia, or the peoples of the Eurasian Steppes.
    Compared to them, all other races including non-white races, the Asians, Turks, Arabs, etc...have been able to build civilizations.

    But let's talk about the African continent.
    Why are African races racially incapable of building a civilization?
    Why have they evolved to become so primitive, whilst the other races have developed alot since their cave dwelling days?

    Im not really interested in "Oh u racist" answers. Just answers which do not care about political correctness.

    And if you bring up Carthage & the Egyptians =Egyptians weren't native North Africans at the time but meditteranids close to North Meditteranean people.
    As to Carthagians, they were pretty much like Romans or meditteranids aswell. Developed people.
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    Lack of interest, I guess...

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    It's because blacks are intelectually inferior as race.

    Of course a black man or woman can learn, go to college and become a great mathematician. But they are a race which together are incapable to make a civilization.








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    North African Caucasoids did. Negroids never built any real civilization since they aren't smart enough on average.

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    Egyptians were not like European Mediterraneans by the way. They looked basically like modern Egyptians.

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    I read an analysis some times ago (done by a guy who is into fitness and anthropology), it basically said Africa's climate doesn't change drastically like in Europe, they had enough food all along the year, the access to the calories was easy.
    Europeans on the other side had to face harsh winters and plan their lives by accumulating ressources and fighting against the nature. That factor influenced the way of thinking and Europeans has become a race of anxious planners who are skeptical about the future and fight this by working and accumulating.
    It is simplistic but it makes sense IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mraz View Post
    I read an analysis some times ago (done by a guy who is into fitness and anthropology), it basically said Africa's climate doesn't change drastically like in Europe, they had enough food all along the year, the access to the calories was easy.
    Europeans on the other side had to face harsh winters and plan their lives by accumulating ressources and fighting against the nature. That factor influenced the way of thinking and Europeans has become a race of anxious planners who are skeptical about the future and fight this by working and accumulating.
    It is simplistic but it makes sense IMO.
    I read the same.

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    Different empires/civilisation existed in Africa, they are just not well known.
    - North Africa : Egyptian were North African and regarding different studies on mummys, Egyptian were Berbers and their haplogroups were E1b1a. Nubian empire was also important but they were mostly SSA people compared to Egyptian.
    Also Numidian kingdom in current Algeria/Tunisia was seen as a big competitor by Romans.
    - East Africa : Ethiopian empire (Aksoum especially) was huge and it was a big market and place of exchanges.

    Different empires existed too in SSA/West African countries : Ghana empire, Mali empire, songhai empire... they were big traders

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mraz View Post
    I read an analysis some times ago (done by a guy who is into fitness and anthropology), it basically said Africa's climate doesn't change drastically like in Europe, they had enough food all along the year, the access to the calories was easy.
    Europeans on the other side had to face harsh winters and plan their lives by accumulating resources and fighting against the nature. That factor influenced the way of thinking and Europeans has become a race of anxious planners who are skeptical about the future and fight this by working and accumulating.
    It is simplistic but it makes sense IMO.
    Was that from "Guns Germs and Steel? Was an interesting book. Also described the lack of cereal crops and load bearing animals in regions like SSA. They only had access to high input vegetable crops which made agriculture a year round venture to feed your village. It also kept the settlement size small. Where as with the cereal crops + horses/goats/rams of Mesopotamia and Europe allowed for growing far more wheat than you need at the time. This opened up trade as a viable option for settlements, and allowed for the size of settlements to increase. Beyond that, since food wasn't as big of an issue due to cereal agriculture it allowed some people to be involved in other professions than food production or hunting. I don't remember all of the points, but those were a couple. It's actually a really interesting subject. I don't really think it has anything to do with inherent intelligence in most cases. It doesn't take a genius to do most things required for civilization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Journeyman26 View Post
    Was that from "Guns Germs and Steel? Was an interesting book.
    It was interesting, but its central argument is basically environmentally deterministic. The main problem I had with the book is it fails to account for why some civilizations who possessed guns and steel, set out to conquer others and expand influence while others who had material excess did not. They're clearly more factors at play than the environment, something innate or cultural, that played a part too, and continues to play a part today.

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