Haplogroups don't have any direct connection with hair and eye color and also ethnic groups to some extent. Some 40% of all Norwegian Sámi also belong to Y-DNA haplogroup I1 and they are not Norse or Germanic.Originally Posted by Erik
Haplogroups don't have any direct connection with hair and eye color and also ethnic groups to some extent. Some 40% of all Norwegian Sámi also belong to Y-DNA haplogroup I1 and they are not Norse or Germanic.
The haplogroup I is very related to the ancient Germanic tribes. Is the Typal type
a kind Alpine type? In southeast Friesland-Zuidwest Drenthe (Netherlands) there
is a small minority dark haired people (also brachyicephal). Romans nor Spanishs did
not enter those areas. Maybe these dark haired people in southeast Friesland (Woudjers)
have to to with the Tydal type? Are the Tydal type descendants of the ancient
rendeer hunters?
No Tydal are not Alpine, the Tydal's are often tall and dolichocephalic.
the Strandid is the Scandinavian alpinoid variant:
Reduced, infantilized, heavily pigmented (brown-eyed, nearly black-haired, and somewhat "swarthy") brachycephals (C.I. 83) of the western Norwegian coast (especially the northwestern provinces, with a focal point in Sunnmøre). Strandids are typically rather euryprosopic, with mesorrhine, concave noses. Judging from their general bodily attributes, they are undoubtedly the products of alpinization (probably local), but the exact derivation of the type is obscured by the lack of relevant skeletal material. Strandid individuals are not numerous, and are usually mixed with the local Borreby, whence it has been suggested that the Strandid is merely a more completely alpinized variety or end-type of this taller, more robust brachycephal. However, this theory raises the question of pigmentation, as Borrebys are rather depigmented on average. An alternate hypothesis involves the alpinization of a Tydal population. The Strandid type may have ties to the western Norwegian Fosna Culture (ca. 8000 BC - 5000 BC).
Yet I think it is possible that Alpinisation worked on Palaeatlantid/Tydal strains which became over time mostly Alpinised among the more sedentary people. But obviously an Alpinised individual is Alpinoid and no longer Cromagnoid, what the Palaeatlantids are by definition, with traits like their meso-dolichocephaly...
I think Michael Kleppe Jamtfall is a good example of the Tydal type.
He was born in Trondheim, Sør Trøndelag and is about 1.83 m (6 ft 0 in) tall.
His father Jørn Jamtfall also seem to be rather Tydal inspired:
Tydal Examples
Atle Pettersen
what is a tydal?
From Valdres
From Kristiania(Oslo)
Tydal/Strandid intermediate:
I'd like to ask for some more examples.
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