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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouistreham View Post
    This is pure horseshit.

    Yiddisch is a 99,99% German dialect that was obviously born in Western Germany, in Upper Rhineland.
    It mixes influences from South-Western german dialects with Central-Western (Franconian, Hessian) Mittelhochdeutsch.
    Anyone familiar with German as it is spoken in those areas can understand all of Yiddisch.

    For some reason this ugly gibberish (it sounds like German spoken by Arabs, with the "ü" pronounced "i" and all declensions dropped) developed mainly in present-day Poland and Lithuania, where Germanic populations used to speak a fully different sort of German, i.e. Plattdeutsch (or Low Saxon).

    Slavic influence are almost zero, and borrowings from Hebrew are limited to a couple of words like "hayem" for "life" and "schalom" for "peace", that's all.
    Subjective opinion based on out-dated assumptions.
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    I missed this;

    Until 2015, the only non-Busbecqian additions to this very small corpus are two potentially Crimean Gothic terms from other sources: the first is a proper name, Harfidel, found in a Hebrew inscription on a grave stone dating from the 5th century AD; the second word, razn ("house"), may have lived on as a loan word meaning "roof lath" in the Crimean Tatar language
    -Stearns 1978: 37; quoted in Maarten van der Meer, Morphologie des Krimgotischen. Ein Vergleich mit dem Bibelgotischen, retrieved 8 January 2015.
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    In his book Two-tiered Relexification in Yiddish Paul Wexler reminds us that a linguist called Poljak believed -writing in 1951- the Khazar Jews spoke Gothic (which ties in with the evidence above) here;

    https://books.google.com.au/books?id...gothic&f=false
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouistreham View Post
    Slavic influence are almost zero
    except all surnames end in -ovski, -ovic

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    I've read on skadi (as a guest, since Im no member there) on the Dutch section old posts from a guy who claimed that Russian language devolped from East Germanic. Pesonly I consider it as a load of crap, the user in question who made these claims goes by the name of Aistulf or something like that. Dont know the guy but found it rather amusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sioned View Post
    I've read on skadi (as a guest, since Im no member there) on the Dutch section old posts from a guy who claimed that Russian language devolped from East Germanic. Pesonly I consider it as a load of crap, the user in question who made these claims goes by the name of Aistulf or something like that. Dont know the guy but found it rather amusing.

    That guy is a huge Russophile and he wants to find a common linguistic root to identify with us.

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