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    Quote Originally Posted by Fractal View Post
    I am Gujarati, so I grew up around uncles and older cousins doing this. Fortunately, they never offered me any of it.

    Indians and other South Asians here very rarely smoke. The biggest smokers here are Arabs and Europeans.

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    I very rarely drink alcohol and I don't smoke tobacco. As a very rare treat, I may partake in a social J.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900 View Post
    Indians and other South Asians here very rarely smoke. The biggest smokers here are Arabs and Europeans.
    Yes that's true but Gujaratis are big users of smokeless tobacco (chew).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900 View Post
    Indians and other South Asians here very rarely smoke. The biggest smokers here are Arabs and Europeans.
    Smoking and coffee causes very bad breath and discoloured teeth, plus smoking causes bad tobacco odour that lingers in the hair and clothes, along with a lot of health problems and coughing.

    One in six people in England smoke according to research from 2016: https://www.theguardian.com/society/...o-lowest-level

    The 20 countries that smoke the most (2014 rankings)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ion_per_capita

    My country is currently in 74th position (a lower rate than China, Russia, the US, Japan, Canada, Australia, Ireland, Austria, Switzerland, France, Germany, the Netherlands, Italy, Spain, Poland, Finland, Latvia, Malta, Sweden, Denmark, Greece, Ukraine, Slovenia, Bulgaria, Romania, Macedonia, Belarus, Luxembourg, Belgium, Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Albania, Serbia, Turkey, etc.... we have a lower rate of smokers than a lot of other European nations, and lower than Israel and Saudi Arabia.

    The rate of smokers here continues to fall each year even with immigration of citizens to the UK from other EU states who smoke like a chimney.

    I don't know about the laws in other EU states, but in the UK the public smoking ban makes it illegal to smoke on all public transport, in cars with children, in all public buildings and bars, and people can also be fined if they drop cigarette butts onto the street (leading to environmental problems) instead of using a pocket ashtray to extinguish it safely.

    The smoking laws in the UK also enforces stores selling tobacco products to conceal cigarettes and tobacco from public view behind a metal screen, and enforces repulsive pictures of dead people who died prematurely from smoking, and pictures of rotting teeth and eyes, etc, to be displayed on all tobacco and cigarette packaging.

    The packaging of tobacco and cigarettes has to be in the same repulsive colour and must state in bold warning writing that 'tobacco causes infertily, impotence, lung cancer, eye diseases,' etc, across the packaging, by law.

    In terms of European smokers, the highest amount of smokers tends to be in eastern European nations.

    China must be the most stinkiest nation. Smokers can't smell much though as their smell and taste bud senses are affected, but to non-smokers, the smell of someone who smokes is like a stale ashtray smell.

    Ranking Country/Territory Number of cigarettes per person aged ≥ 15 per year
    1 China 4124.53
    2 Belarus 3831.62
    3 Lebanon 3023.15
    4 Macedonia 2732.23
    5 Russia 2690.33
    6 Slovenia 2637.03
    7 Belgium 2353.28
    8 Luxembourg 2283.55
    9 Montenegro 2249.79
    10 Bosnia and Herzegovina 2233.46
    11 Czech Republic 2194.01
    12 Kazakhstan 2156.59
    13 Azerbaijan 2114.33
    14 Greece 2086.09
    15 South Korea 2072.57
    16 Austria 1987.52
    17 Jordan 1855.05
    18 Ukraine 1853.66
    19 Hungary 1774.6
    20 Estonia 1758.63
    21 Japan 1713
    22 Croatia 1709.3
    23 Serbia 1687.56
    24 Cyprus 1643.67
    25 Switzerland 1633.86
    26 Tunisia 1628.46
    27 Romania 1619.82
    28 Slovakia 1617.59
    29 Turkey 1580.91
    30 Armenia 1545.13
    31 Kuwait 1517.26
    32 Bulgaria 1504.72
    33 Germany 1480.04
    34 Italy 1442.87
    35 Poland 1396.06
    36 Netherlands 1395.97
    37 Saudi Arabia 1395.14
    38 Cuba 1391.98
    39 Georgia 1378.45
    40 Denmark 1378.23
    41 Argentina 1359.4
    42 Israel 1346.21
    43 Libya 1332.77
    44 Indonesia 1322.3
    45 Philippines 1291.08
    46 Malta 1266.14
    47 Spain 1264.74
    48 Vietnam 1226.92
    49 Egypt 1215.3
    50 Iraq 1187.65
    51 Albania 1177.42
    52 Canada 1154.25
    53 Uruguay 1135.16
    54 Lithuania 1123.86
    55 Portugal 1114.11
    56 Moldova 1112.8
    57 United States 1083.41
    58 Finland 1082.87
    59 Algeria 1041.18
    60 Latvia 1024.09
    61 France 1022.88
    62 Brunei 992.81
    63 Bahrain 968.68
    64 Australia 957.2
    65 Mongolia 955.72
    66 Ireland 953.66
    67 Chile 929.55
    68 Thailand 925
    69 Turkmenistan 895.24
    70 Sweden 868.89
    71 Iran 835.51
    72 Laos 831
    73 Namibia 827.48
    74 United Kingdom 826.13
    75 Papua New Guinea 740.25
    76 United Arab Emirates 715.01
    77 Qatar 697.73
    78 Kyrgyzstan 682.83
    79 Morocco 679.95
    80 New Zealand 671.12
    81 Singapore 664.98
    82 Bangladesh 651.63
    83 Equatorial Guinea 649
    84 Cambodia 644.99
    85 Fiji 617.69
    86 Jamaica 609.67
    87 North Korea 592.95
    88 Seychelles 589.66
    89 Malaysia 583.67
    90 Oman 576.55
    91 Venezuela 572.84
    92 Uzbekistan 565.39
    93 Gabon 559.05
    94 Norway 556.04
    95 Iceland 551.36
    96 South Africa 537.03
    97 Tajikistan 533.04
    98 Cape Verde 514.86
    99 Pakistan 510.59
    100 Brazil 503.9
    101 Senegal 491.78
    102 Honduras 489.01
    103 Angola 488.8
    104 Nicaragua 487.84
    105 Ivory Coast 477.01
    106 Djibouti 475.89
    107 Syria 458.63
    108 Botswana 448.81
    109 Costa Rica 432.33
    110 Sudan 427.75
    111 Swaziland 427.08
    112 Belize 400.1
    113 South Sudan 398.48
    114 Yemen 388.23
    115 Antigua and Barbuda 361.63
    116 Colombia 359.39
    117 Hong Kong 345.32
    118 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 338.29
    119 Barbados 333.09
    120 Mexico 329.26
    121 Sri Lanka 322.44
    122 Sierra Leone 309.58
    123 Bahamas 301.22
    124 Bolivia 299.49
    125 Congo 293.84
    126 Comoros 289.42
    127 El Salvador 280.35
    128 Mauritius 261.4
    129 Kenya 256.57
    130 Togo 249.85
    131 Dominican Republic 245.36
    132 Mali 236.09
    133 Saint Lucia 231.55
    134 Grenada 224.33
    135 Panama 224.27
    136 Maldives 215.42
    137 Burkina Faso 213.2
    138 Madagascar 205.82
    139 Myanmar 205.55
    140 Ecuador 190.98
    141 Guatemala 189.5
    142 Cameroon 184.17
    143 Central African Republic 177.76
    144 Guinea-Bissau 174.84
    145 Nigeria 172.68
    146 Paraguay 166
    147 Gambia 165.93
    148 Zambia 164.55
    149 Chad 156.31
    150 Bhutan 155.09
    151 Mauritania 134.92
    152 Zimbabwe 133.53
    153 Benin 122.1
    154 Ghana 120.85
    155 Somalia 116.66
    156 Peru 116.33
    157 Haiti 113.93
    158 Eritrea 113.58
    159 India 110.93
    160 Săo Tomé and Príncipe 110.65
    161 Niger 105.36
    162 Liberia 104.36
    163 Tanzania 101.12
    164 Burundi 97.73
    165 Trinidad and Tobago 97.03
    166 Lesotho 87.69
    167 Afghanistan 83.81
    168 Nepal 83
    169 Mozambique 81.71
    170 Tonga 81.07
    171 Malawi 80.02
    172 Suriname 79.24
    173 Guyana 76.58
    174 Vanuatu 76.2
    175 Ethiopia 75.8
    176 Democratic Republic of the Congo 74.39
    177 Samoa 54.21
    178 Rwanda 53.24
    179 Uganda 41.08
    180 Kiribati 28.03
    181 Solomon Islands 26.42
    182 Guinea 14.96

    There's a range of modern devices and methods that's available to help people to switch from smoking to using e-cigarettes or nicotine patches and/or an inhalator. (These devices can even be prescribed by a doctor to help people to quit smoking which is a far more dangerous method of obtaining nicotine. Smokers aren't addicted to the carbon monoxide and tar found in analogue cigarettes, but to nicotine.)



    The 'Allen Carr method' has helped 30 million people to quit smoking by using his psychological techniques and reading his help books.

    Allen Carr was a British author of books about quitting smoking and other psychological dependencies including alcohol addiction. .

    He quit smoking after 30 years as a hundred-a-day chain smoker.

    He died from cancer, but before his death, he stated that he would've got cancer sooner in life if he didn't quit smoking.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Carr

    https://www.allencarr.com/free-infor...carrs-easyway/
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    Quote Originally Posted by ♥ Lily ♥ View Post
    Smoking and coffee causes very bad breath and discoloured teeth, plus smoking causes bad tobacco odour that lingers in the hair and clothes, along with a lot of health problems and coughing.

    One in six people in England smoke according to research from 2016: https://www.theguardian.com/society/...o-lowest-level

    The 20 countries that smoke the most (2014 rankings)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ion_per_capita

    My country is currently in 74th position (a lower rate than China, Russia, the US, Japan, Canada, Australia, Ireland, Austria, Switzerland, France, Germany, the Netherlands, Italy, Spain, Poland, Finland, Latvia, Malta, Sweden, Denmark, Greece, Ukraine, Slovenia, Bulgaria, Romania, Macedonia, Belarus, Luxembourg, Belgium, Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Albania, Serbia, Turkey, etc.... we have a lower rate of smokers than a lot of other European nations, and lower than Israel and Saudi Arabia.

    The rate of smokers here continues to fall each year even with immigration of citizens to the UK from other EU states who smoke like a chimney.

    I don't know about the laws in other EU states, but in the UK the public smoking ban makes it illegal to smoke on all public transport, in cars with children, in all public buildings and bars, and people can also be fined if they drop cigarette butts onto the street (leading to environmental problems) instead of using a pocket ashtray to extinguish it safely.

    The smoking laws in the UK also enforces stores selling tobacco products to conceal cigarettes and tobacco from public view behind a metal screen, and enforces repulsive pictures of dead people who died prematurely from smoking, and pictures of rotting teeth and eyes, etc, to be displayed on all tobacco and cigarette packaging.

    The packaging of tobacco and cigarettes has to be in the same repulsive colour and must state in bold warning writing that 'tobacco causes infertily, impotence, lung cancer, eye diseases,' etc, across the packaging, by law.

    In terms of European smokers, the highest amount of smokers tends to be in eastern European nations.

    China must be the most stinkiest nation. Smokers can't smell much though as their smell and taste bud senses are affected, but to non-smokers, the smell of someone who smokes is like a stale ashtray smell.

    Ranking Country/Territory Number of cigarettes per person aged ≥ 15 per year
    1 China 4124.53
    2 Belarus 3831.62
    3 Lebanon 3023.15
    4 Macedonia 2732.23
    5 Russia 2690.33
    6 Slovenia 2637.03
    7 Belgium 2353.28
    8 Luxembourg 2283.55
    9 Montenegro 2249.79
    10 Bosnia and Herzegovina 2233.46
    11 Czech Republic 2194.01
    12 Kazakhstan 2156.59
    13 Azerbaijan 2114.33
    14 Greece 2086.09
    15 South Korea 2072.57
    16 Austria 1987.52
    17 Jordan 1855.05
    18 Ukraine 1853.66
    19 Hungary 1774.6
    20 Estonia 1758.63
    21 Japan 1713
    22 Croatia 1709.3
    23 Serbia 1687.56
    24 Cyprus 1643.67
    25 Switzerland 1633.86
    26 Tunisia 1628.46
    27 Romania 1619.82
    28 Slovakia 1617.59
    29 Turkey 1580.91
    30 Armenia 1545.13
    31 Kuwait 1517.26
    32 Bulgaria 1504.72
    33 Germany 1480.04
    34 Italy 1442.87
    35 Poland 1396.06
    36 Netherlands 1395.97
    37 Saudi Arabia 1395.14
    38 Cuba 1391.98
    39 Georgia 1378.45
    40 Denmark 1378.23
    41 Argentina 1359.4
    42 Israel 1346.21
    43 Libya 1332.77
    44 Indonesia 1322.3
    45 Philippines 1291.08
    46 Malta 1266.14
    47 Spain 1264.74
    48 Vietnam 1226.92
    49 Egypt 1215.3
    50 Iraq 1187.65
    51 Albania 1177.42
    52 Canada 1154.25
    53 Uruguay 1135.16
    54 Lithuania 1123.86
    55 Portugal 1114.11
    56 Moldova 1112.8
    57 United States 1083.41
    58 Finland 1082.87
    59 Algeria 1041.18
    60 Latvia 1024.09
    61 France 1022.88
    62 Brunei 992.81
    63 Bahrain 968.68
    64 Australia 957.2
    65 Mongolia 955.72
    66 Ireland 953.66
    67 Chile 929.55
    68 Thailand 925
    69 Turkmenistan 895.24
    70 Sweden 868.89
    71 Iran 835.51
    72 Laos 831
    73 Namibia 827.48
    74 United Kingdom 826.13
    75 Papua New Guinea 740.25
    76 United Arab Emirates 715.01
    77 Qatar 697.73
    78 Kyrgyzstan 682.83
    79 Morocco 679.95
    80 New Zealand 671.12
    81 Singapore 664.98
    82 Bangladesh 651.63
    83 Equatorial Guinea 649
    84 Cambodia 644.99
    85 Fiji 617.69
    86 Jamaica 609.67
    87 North Korea 592.95
    88 Seychelles 589.66
    89 Malaysia 583.67
    90 Oman 576.55
    91 Venezuela 572.84
    92 Uzbekistan 565.39
    93 Gabon 559.05
    94 Norway 556.04
    95 Iceland 551.36
    96 South Africa 537.03
    97 Tajikistan 533.04
    98 Cape Verde 514.86
    99 Pakistan 510.59
    100 Brazil 503.9
    101 Senegal 491.78
    102 Honduras 489.01
    103 Angola 488.8
    104 Nicaragua 487.84
    105 Ivory Coast 477.01
    106 Djibouti 475.89
    107 Syria 458.63
    108 Botswana 448.81
    109 Costa Rica 432.33
    110 Sudan 427.75
    111 Swaziland 427.08
    112 Belize 400.1
    113 South Sudan 398.48
    114 Yemen 388.23
    115 Antigua and Barbuda 361.63
    116 Colombia 359.39
    117 Hong Kong 345.32
    118 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 338.29
    119 Barbados 333.09
    120 Mexico 329.26
    121 Sri Lanka 322.44
    122 Sierra Leone 309.58
    123 Bahamas 301.22
    124 Bolivia 299.49
    125 Congo 293.84
    126 Comoros 289.42
    127 El Salvador 280.35
    128 Mauritius 261.4
    129 Kenya 256.57
    130 Togo 249.85
    131 Dominican Republic 245.36
    132 Mali 236.09
    133 Saint Lucia 231.55
    134 Grenada 224.33
    135 Panama 224.27
    136 Maldives 215.42
    137 Burkina Faso 213.2
    138 Madagascar 205.82
    139 Myanmar 205.55
    140 Ecuador 190.98
    141 Guatemala 189.5
    142 Cameroon 184.17
    143 Central African Republic 177.76
    144 Guinea-Bissau 174.84
    145 Nigeria 172.68
    146 Paraguay 166
    147 Gambia 165.93
    148 Zambia 164.55
    149 Chad 156.31
    150 Bhutan 155.09
    151 Mauritania 134.92
    152 Zimbabwe 133.53
    153 Benin 122.1
    154 Ghana 120.85
    155 Somalia 116.66
    156 Peru 116.33
    157 Haiti 113.93
    158 Eritrea 113.58
    159 India 110.93
    160 Săo Tomé and Príncipe 110.65
    161 Niger 105.36
    162 Liberia 104.36
    163 Tanzania 101.12
    164 Burundi 97.73
    165 Trinidad and Tobago 97.03
    166 Lesotho 87.69
    167 Afghanistan 83.81
    168 Nepal 83
    169 Mozambique 81.71
    170 Tonga 81.07
    171 Malawi 80.02
    172 Suriname 79.24
    173 Guyana 76.58
    174 Vanuatu 76.2
    175 Ethiopia 75.8
    176 Democratic Republic of the Congo 74.39
    177 Samoa 54.21
    178 Rwanda 53.24
    179 Uganda 41.08
    180 Kiribati 28.03
    181 Solomon Islands 26.42
    182 Guinea 14.96

    There's a range of modern devices and methods that's available to help people to switch from smoking to using e-cigarettes or nicotine patches and/or an inhalator. (These devices can even be prescribed by a doctor to help people to quit smoking which is a far more dangerous method of obtaining nicotine.)



    The 'Allen Carr method' has helped 30 million people to quit smoking by using his psychological techniques and reading help books.

    Allen Carr was a British author of books about quitting smoking and other psychological dependencies including alcohol addiction. .

    He died from cancer, but before his death, he stated that he would've got cancer sooner in life if he didn't quit smoking.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Carr

    https://www.allencarr.com/free-infor...carrs-easyway/
    It's good that the UAE is in 76th position which is not far from the UK(74). If only Christopher Hitchens wasn't a heavy smoker and drinker then he would have been alive kicking ass. RIP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900 View Post
    It's good that the UAE is in 76th position which is not far from the UK(74). If only Christopher Hitchens wasn't a heavy smoker and drinker then he would have been alive kicking ass. RIP.
    I miss Hitchens too. He lives in my memory.

    It's good the UAE is 76th.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ♥ Lily ♥ View Post
    I miss Hitchens too. He lives in my memory.

    It's good the UAE is 76th.
    Judging by the list, the UK is one of the least smoking nation in the western world which is a great step to the direction of good health which is great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900 View Post
    Judging by the list, the UK is one of the least smoking nation in the western world which is a great step to the direction of good health which is great.


    I'm surprised about China though considering that e-cigarettes were invented by a Chinese pharmacist.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_cigarette

    As of 2015 most e-cigarettes are made in China. Since they were first sold in 2004 their global use has risen exponentially. In the United States and the United Kingdom their use is widespread.
    The rise of vapers in the UK has led to the decrease in smokers. Vaping on e-cigarettes has a few risks - especially if nicotine is still used although this can be reduced over time, but smoking is a lot more dangerous and far worse and has even higher risks.

    We also have free Stop Smoking support and counselling clinics in the UK to support and help people with quitting, and people can be medically prescribed free nicotine patches and free inhalators and cartridges on the UK's National Health Service which produce no smoke and no vapour.

    I buy my own inhalators and cartridges and patches from pharmacies. The patches are like invisible plasters that are worn on the skin, such as on the inner arm. They help to reduce nicotine addiction (but vaping is also helpful in reducing the addiction) and the inhalators help with the hand-to-mouth habit.

    Also smoking is an expensive habit compared to the amount of money that is saved in vaping as a healthier substitute and alternative to smoking. Smoking is like money being burned and going up in smoke.

    I don't get strong nicotine cravings from vaping and can go for long periods without vaping at all. Vaping doesn't deliver nicotine to the bloodstream as effectively as the amount of nicotine delivered through smoking, so vaping gradually weans people off their nicotine addiction.

    UK Government Department of Health finding: E-cigarettes around 95% less harmful than tobacco estimates landmark review
    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/e...andmark-review

    We're lucky to have all this help and modern devices available to people today, as 50 years ago when the smoking rate was 50% of the nation, people unfortunately didn't have all the 21st century help available to them and died prematurely.

    E-cigarettes have had a good success rate in helping people to quit smoking in the UK, and the UK government's Department of Health is considering allowing doctors to prescribe smoking addicts with free e-cigarettes on the National Health Service with counselling support as a method to quitting.

    A man shows his chest x-ray pictures after quitting smoking and switching to vaping for 3 years.


    Vaping is much cleaner than smoking. (Tar in cigarettes causes a yellow staining to the teeth, nails, and on discoloured ceilings and walls.)

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