Greeks vs Portugueses. Who are the darkest?

[Faklon]

Biggest pigmentation study about Greece is from 1879 by German Bernard Ornstein, later republished by Swiss Eugene Pittard on a sample of 1000-2000 soldiers. This didn't include the most distant islands, Northern Greece and Anatolian populations.

Bernard Ornstein



Eugene Pittard




Blondism ranges at ~8-10%, blue and gray eyes at ~22-27% and strangely black hair at ~0,3-2%(I guess strictly black?).


You have other studies giving various percentages but they are mostly small-scaled and perceptions of color varies.

The most recent one is this one.

Gives close results to Ornstein but it's based on a questionnaire and it's small-sampled.

Observing old Greek pictures and conceptions from the field of Ornstein's studies to modern Greek reality, I would say that ethnic Greeks today are on average of darker pigmentation than back then with a notable variance from person to person but maybe not as some stereotypes claim.

[Rolnik szuka zony]

German study of Laconian Greeks - Körner T., Bericht über rassenkundliche Untersuchungen in Lakonien als Beitrag zu einer Rassenkunde Griechenlands; Zeitschrift für Morphologie und Anthropologie, Bd. 39, H. 1 (1940)

Hair color (A - P blond to light brown; Q-S medium brown, I-III red)
8,5% blond, 13.7% medium brown (chatin) for adults


This study is for southern part of Greece. In the north proportion for light shades must be higher. But children are nearly 50% blond-haired.

[Rolnik szuka zony]

Eyes color from the same study
1 light
2 mixed
3 light brown (hazel)
4 brown / dark brown


So about 19% light eyes and 23% mixed. Good score for very south of Greece. In the north obviously higher.

[Pausanias]

Portuguese. Modern Greeks have pure albanian aryan origin, thanks to God.

[Deneb]

I found out yesterday that this thing couldn't speak galician. The spanish posters say he isn't spanish, so i'll just call him spic for now on to keep things simple.
Anyway, this is his way of getting back at me. By making this thread and posting the likes of Ricardo Costa. But since i'm in a good mood, i'll showcase a difference in looks between different people called Ricardo Costa, not because i like to educate spics, but just because...

Ricardo Costa, the football player

Honestly, I don't think of u at all. But I do believe you are falling in love with me.

[Hithaeglir]

Are all the players ethnically Portuguese?

On average the portuguese team seems slightly darker.

[EL_BARBARO]

Honestly, I don't think of u at all. But I do believe you are falling in love with me.

No, no te vayas a ir tan lejos. Él te está diciendo que te estás haciendo pasar por gallego y español. Que todo tú eres un fake, una mentira.

Y que por supuesto eres un puto troll.

A lo mejor los de italian rats sí querrían echarte un polvo, y a ti te gustaría seguro.

[Deneb]

No, no te vayas a ir tan lejos. Él te está diciendo que te estás haciendo pasar por gallego y español. Que todo tú eres un fake, una mentira.

Y que por supuesto eres un puto troll.

A lo mejor los de italian rats sí querrían echarte un polvo, y a ti te gustaría seguro.

I love u too.

[Deneb]

Are all the players ethnically Portuguese?

On average the portuguese team seems slightly darker.

What about their features? Who have a more 'continental' look and what is more bordeline?

[alnortedelsur]

The Portuguese team is slightly darker, but those Portuguese in particular are darker than those Greeks in particular. The true is that Iberians (Spanish/Portuguese) are, on average, slightly lighter (in skin and rates of blondism and light eyes) than Greeks, without denying that most Greeks are very European looking, and are not as dark as some people stereotype them to be.

I am also start thinking that Artabro is a fake Spaniard and a troll.