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    Default Ancient Georgians, Pelasgians, Ancient Egyptians, Etruscans, Basques, Albanians & Greeks

    There is a major connection with PRE-IE people of the balkans, Italy and Caucasus.


    Most historians and scholars of Georgia as well as anthropologists, archaeologists and linguists tend to agree that the ancestors of modern Georgians inhabited the southern Caucasus and northern Anatolia since the Neolithic period.[27] Scholars usually refer to them as Proto-Kartvelian (Proto-Georgians such as Colchians and Iberians) tribes.[28] Some European historians of the 19th century (e.g., Wilhelm von Humboldt and Paul Kretschmer) as well as Georgian scholars (R. Gordeziani, S. Kaukhchishvili and Z. Gamsakhurdia) came to the conclusion that Proto-Kartvelians might be related linguistically and culturally to the indigenous (pre-Indo-European) peoples of ancient Europe including the Pelasgians, Etruscans and Proto-Basques.
    Herodotus regarded the Colchians as Ancient Egyptian[19][20][21][22] race.
    West georgians were known as Colchians and East as Iberians.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgians
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colchis



    Marin Barleti, Albanian historian who did a biography on Skanderbeg during his time, in one of his more known books wrote something about ancestors of Albanians coming from Colchis, settling in the mountains of rome before moving to the balkans to the present location, but he also included macedonia and epirus as a region we inhabited. Also the name Ulqin of montenegro was somehow connected to Colchis people meaning Ulk, wolf.. because in the Caucasus in some places the wolf is seen as a symbol much like in some places its the eagle is too.

    Isn't the region of mountains of rome basically somehow connected with Etruscans too? hasn't this language also basically by some been connected with proto-Albanian?


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelasgians

    Some Georgian scholars (including R. V. Gordeziani and M. G. Abdushelishvili) connect the Pelasgians with the Ibero-Caucasian peoples of the prehistoric Caucasus, known to the Greeks as Colchians and Iberians.

    Then there is the theory of some of these people might of been IE. if the pelasgians were IE then they most likely became so maybe under influence.

    Vladimir I. Georgiev asserted that the Pelasgians were Indo-Europeans, with an Indo-European etymology of pelasgoi from pelagos, "sea" as the Sea People, the PRŚT of Egyptian inscriptions, and related them to the neighbouring Thracians. He proposed a soundshift model from Indo-European to Pelasgian.

    Following Vladimir I. Georgiev,[66] who placed Pelasgian as an Indo-European language "between Albanian and Armenian",[67] Albert Joris Van Windekens (1915—1989) offered rules for an unattested hypothetical Indo-European Pelasgian language, selecting vocabulary for which there was no Greek etymology among the names of places, heroes, animals, plants, garments, artifacts, social organization.
    I'm gonna go ahead and find some more info on this outside of wiki, scroll down to notes or references, sources and you'll find books, papers and other things.

    the ''obsolote theory'' of albanians being pelasgians was only considered obsolote when genetic studies did not exist


    Then you have the ancient historians quoting also Pelasgians as ancient Egyptians

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    Quote Originally Posted by davai View Post
    Pelasgians, apparently a north Aegean people scattered throughout Greece by the migrations of the Bronze Age and preserving a common, non-Greek language. The Greeks used the name to describe the original pre-Greek inhabitants of Greece and the Aegean area, with whom they sometimes included the Tyrrhenians (Etruscans).
    http://www.romanianhistoryandculture.com/pelasgians.htm

    In the 5th century BCE we find that the logographer, Hellanikos, claims the Pelasgians migrated to Italy and gave rise to the Etruscan race, and we find that Thoukydides claims the Pelasgians were a Tyrsenian race which once lived in Attika and Lemnos;
    http://www.carolandray.plus.com/Eteo...elasgians.html

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    Albanian, Pelasgian, Etruscan.

    https://www.google.no/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=...anian+etruscan

    http://www.thelosttruth.altervista.o...n_english.html

    The discovery of an inscription in Lemnos which appears to be related to Etruscan may be evidence that the Pelasgians and Etruscans were related peoples and that Pelasgians once inhabited Lemnos; one cannot, however, rule out the it merely shows that the language of a mercenary soldier buried there was related to Etruscan.
    There were also ancient traditions linking the Etruscans with Lydia and, if the Etruscans were related to the Pelasgians, then it may be that Pelasgians had once settled in Lydia and may be responsible for some of the non-Indo-European elements in the ancient Lydian language.
    Clearly other interpretations are possible and with the scant evidence we have we can only hypothesize; anything more definite, in my opinion, is unwarranted.
    http://www.carolandray.plus.com/Eteo...elasgians.html

    So pretty much as far as I know both Etruscans and pelasgians, most likely related to eachother, have been linked by some to PRE-IE people of the Caucasus around todays Georgia and Armenia. most likely they could of migrated from there. With some NON-IE people of Armenia getting asimilated by arriving proto-armenians.
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