Nordid Origins in Poland?

[Guapo]

Isn't Baltid a mixed Nordic/CM type?

Or they ca just be shorter brachycephalic(flat head syndrome can make your eyes look squinty too) nordids due to to diets.

[Curtis24]

The original Slavic-speaking peoples are described as being highly Nordid by Coon. They are also described by medieval historians as being blonde. So all Slavic speaking countries experienced an invasion of Nordids originally, who are responsible for spreading Slavic languages and culture.

However, Nordicism in most Slavic-countries was then eventually depleted - through a combination of Nordids being subsumed into the local population, as well as selective pressures such as disease and wars which favored Alpinids and Baltids. Keep in mind also that the original Slavic invaders probably only made a small proportion of the population of the areas they conquered.

Here, read this by Agrippa(its about Alpinids and Alpinisation):

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3) Why are there so many Alpinids in Central Europe, when(according to Coon) that area was mostly Nordid right up til the Fall of the Roman Empire?

Because they could only spread peacefully, under the protection of rules and laws, kept up by more dominant groups in their own areas. Alpinisation was the trend of the slow but steady Alpinisation of the hungry, suppressed, one sided working and living, constantly sick & suffering farmers, among which people with Alpinoid traits seem to have a higher reproductive rate.

You can see that with those going to the cities, those becoming priests or mercenaries, insurgents or the like, those which had stronger progressive-dominant tendencies, even if they survived the hard childhood in the villages, were less likely to have more children, in the end and this dysgenic trends worked on the common people in particular many generations - with the great emigration waves and modern mass wars afterwards...

In the end, the Alpinid farmer which was just staying at home and underwent everything which came, without doing or changing too much, got more children which survived.

As I said, before the Medieval Times, Alpinisation was at various times stopped or even reverted, especially when higher individual and group selection became more active again, when we see times of movements, herder-farmer warriors, wars, clan organisation and the like (f.e. Germanic and early Slavic expansion). Its similar to gracilisation vs. degracilisation in a certain way.

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Alpinid and Baltid specialisation means efficiency, survival with lower risks and effectiveness, but by being able to withstand the bad times to come - more by "sitting it out" rather than "fighting it out" so to say...

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17339

[Mordid]

I would say 95% Norse and Tuetonic invasion, but of course a little of the rest too. Pretty much just a bunch of Slavic, Germanic and/or Viking invasions caused it.

[Pallantides]

Isn't eastern Poland the urheimat for the Corded Ware culture?

[Mordid]

Isn't eastern Poland the urheimat for the Corded Ware culture?

No. Germany but Poland have more R1A DNA more than Germany population.

R1 would be asscociated with Corded ware culture.

[d3cimat3d]

Germanic people from the west and Slavic people from the east = Poland.
I would say it's 33.3% Germanic & 66.6% Slavic. Also there is definitely some traces of the Wielbark culture left over.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wielbark_culture

[Monolith]

Germanic people from the west and Slavic people from the east = Poland.
I would say it's 33.3% Germanic & 66.6% Slavic.

I don't think so.



I have attached two studies on this matter, and this one might be interesting as well:

Craniometric Relationships among Medieval Central European Populations (from this thread)

It would appear the early Slavs in Poland were, biologically speaking, surprisingly homogeneous, which is reflected in their obvious biological continuity and craniometric similarity to other Slavic populations.

[MagnaLaurentia]

Hum? What the colors mean?

[d3cimat3d]

I don't think so.



I have attached two studies on this matter, and this one might be interesting as well:

Craniometric Relationships among Medieval Central European Populations (from this thread)

It would appear the early Slavs in Poland were, biologically speaking, surprisingly homogeneous, which is reflected in their obvious biological continuity and craniometric similarity to other Slavic populations.

Bunch of bullshit. Prior the the arrival of the Slavs from their homeland in Belarus, Poland was full of various Germanic speaking people, many of them left during the migration period but that doesn't mean they didn't leave a genetic legacy.

[d3cimat3d]