Italians

[Rasvalg]

I couldn't decide where to start this thread so here it is. It was suggested to me after one of my recent posts to begin a thread dealing with others views on whether or not Italians are white.
So that being said here it is. I will not run this as a poll more just put down your opinion and let us see where this goes. Now guys and gals keep it civil please. I personally believe that Italians are just as white as the rest of the European population and have some good friends who die and have given up there lives to defend that ideal. But not everyone believes that way so again please keep it civil and debate your point of view.
Thanks and have fun with this thread it should be interesting.

[Loki]

I couldn't decide where to start this thread so here it is. It was suggested to me after one of my recent posts to begin a thread dealing with others views on whether or not Italians are white.
So that being said here it is. I will not run this as a poll more just put down your opinion and let us see where this goes. Now guys and gals keep it civil please. After some of you have posted I will way in with my opinion or for those of you who have seen my other post probably already know where I stand.
Thanks and have fun with this thread it should be interesting.

It's a loaded question, and a little ambiguous from scratch. Since Italians are quite diverse historically, and the northern half very different from the south, the question could equally have been: "Are Europeans white?".

These kind of threads can be fun, as a display of various sorts of ignorance. Yet the very term "white" is ambiguous and subjective in itself. "White" means different things to different people.

To the Apricity, Italians are Europeans. This is a forum which concerns itself with European preservation, and as such, Italians are important and welcome to participate here.

[Pino]

well yes, although there are a hell of alot of Italians that are mixed race.

I dont know whether you can say Italy is a White country but there are defiantely White people in Italy.

[TheGreatest]

You know why I dislike Italians? Because they had no regard for the United States and Canada. Since the 1950's, Italians have been the fastest growing ethnic group next to Hispanic and Blacks.


- Different Cultural Values (no such things as manners in the Italian peninsula)
- They all seem obsessed with Catholicism, the Mafia and Mama.
- They are much darker and shorter than our people. They also love to spike up their hair with gel
- They think since they're ''White'' (), this give them perfect right to run after our women.


Italians and Greeks are two groups that have long been considered ''mixed'' and Un-European in the eyes of most. It was common for parents to teach their children to not marry Italians, because they are ''Catholics'' (This was coming from my Grandmother who is Catholic.)


Reminds me of an Italian on Skadi who posted a picture of his country men, exclaiming them to be White. I looked in confusion and pointed out that almost all of them were brown, short and looked like Arabs, with only a small number being acceptable by Central European standards


And than of course that's all CHEESE ON THE TOPPING. Once you start talking to an Italian most of them WILL boggle down to a rant about them creating civilization and the Roman Empire (never mind that we have mountains of evidence suggesting that Romans are not the same as modern day Italians)

[Vulpix]

Anyone with any knowledge about Italy is aware that Northerners vs. Southerners is a necessary distinction when discussing Italians.

As for white? What is white? Each of us probably has a different definition of who is white or not .

[TheGreatest]

As anyone with any knowledge about Italy is aware of, the North vs. South is a necessary distinction when discussing Italians.

As for white? What is white? Each of us probably has a different definition of who is white or not .

LOL North vs. South divide... This isn't the Medieval Ages! Millions of Southern Italians went to the factories in Tyrol and Milan during industrialization.

[Loki]

Reminds me of an Italian on Skadi who posted a picture of his country men, exclaiming them to be White. I looked in confusion and pointed out that almost all of them were brown, short and looked like Arabs, with only a small number being acceptable by Central European standards

Have you ever been to Italy? I went to Rome about two years ago ... and I was amazed that the average modern Roman was nowhere near as swarthy as all these internet nazis tried to make Italians out to be. Do yourself a favour and buy a ticket.

[Loyalist]

I don't share in the view that Italians are European, caucasian, white, or whichever other term applies to your particular school of thought on the matter. Italians today are the products of a millenia of miscegenation with Moors, Phoenicians, Negroes, and numerous other non-European groups. Their physical appearance alone demonstrates how racially bastardized these people are, without taking into consideration the multitudes of scientific data, as well as historical evidence of migration and conquests, which supports this notion. Racial matters aside, Italians also demonstrate an inherent penchant for criminality, deceitfullness, and, perhaps most of all, laziness. These undesirable traits are also amplified by the fact that they are generally arrogant, overly-emotional, and violent. From a colonial point of view, they are a greater detriment to the preservation of people of Northern European stock than any Asian or African will ever be.

From a late 19th century New Orleans newspaper, reporting on the aftermath of the murder of David Hennessy:

The little jail was crowded with Sicilians, whose low, receding foreheads, repulsive countenances and slovenly attire proclaimed their brutal nature.

[Vulpix]

LOL North vs. South divide... This isn't the Medieval Ages!

Medieval Ages ?
Ask any Italian (not Italoamerican) if they think there is no difference between the Northern part of Italy and the Southern bits, in terms of ethnicity, culture, etc.

Millions of Southern Italians went to the factories in Tyrol and Milan during industrialization.

Yes, and they are still emigrating to the North, since they are not doing too well economically down there ...

[Æmeric]

The Italians who came to the US were mostly from Sicily & the lower end of the boot. Many, but not all, look mixed at at least alien compared to Europeans of Northwestern European stock. Take the cast of the Sopranos as an example. Most of the main characters were played by Italian-Americans. And then there is the real life Gotti clan:

These are the kind of people who give Anglo-Germanic Americans their impression of what Italians are like racially & culturally.

Btw, many Italians in the US are proud of the Mafia culture & Guido image, they just don't like Waspish people discussing it. In the same way White people aren't suppose to talk about the shortcomings of Negroes or use the dreaded n-word.