Netherlands/Dutch people - The Land of Faelids (Faelidlands)? LOL

[spanish catalan]

the shortest in Holland are the immigrants, like Africans, Surinamese, Indonesians and such groups, they are midgets next to Dutch people
later on the "Dutch" height will start to shrink because of such groups

and north africans and arabs?
i think africans is very tall,excluding central africans

[spanish catalan]

Along with Montenegrians, and Dalmatians (South Croats) - the tallest in Europe.

haplogroup I connection?

[Breedingvariety]

The Netherlands has more Nordids than Faelids.

[Carlito's Way]

and north africans and arabs?
i think africans is very tall,excluding central africans

well the north africans have always been shorter than me, they seem to be like 5'7 or so, of course there are some who are just as tall as dutch people but on average they are not very tall people
i am 5'11" and with shoes a bit taller, so pretty much those groups i mentioned have been shorter than me on average

most north africans in Holland are from Morocco by the way, no sure from what part though

[Mars06]

Yeah, I've noticed the same thing. Even before I knew anything about racial anthropology I noticed that Dutch people tended to have a very "cavemanish" appearance with wide-set eyes and a prominent brow ridge.

[Robocop]

haplogroup I connection?

Could be Not only that it could be but very probably. Remains of Robust CM (relatively direct line from CroMagnoid) in all three nations and phenotypes.

[Robocop]

Robocop, you should make a thread explaining your system, because Faelid and Nordid are entirely different phenotypes by the "old school" system popularized by Agrippa, the one I subscribe. Them two are Nordids:

Zenden is predominant Faelid, and Ron De Boer at least partly. Ok Staam would be Nordid in general.

But first of all, I cannot view Faelids as Non-Nordids, what kind of thinking (sorry but it sounds crazy) is that? If Faelids are not Nordids THAN NOWONE IS.

Nordids are branch of phenotypes which consists of many Nordid phenotypes, including Faelid.

Sometimes we classify person as Nordid if it shows those general Nordid traits, often in combination with non-nordid phenotype, but I will always (like everyone else ofcourse) use Nordid as same thing as Faelid, but Faelid only as specific detailt what branch of Nordid greets

[Deneb]

I don't like faelids at all. I far prefer (among nordids) north atlantids and real nordids (halstat). No offence, but faelids with those square faces, are like robots, unattractive, especially women.
OTOH, not all Dutchs are faelids. For instance, this one is not faelid imo, at least not pure.

[Antimage]

I don't like faelids at all. I far prefer (among nordids) north atlantids and real nordids (halstat). No offence, but faelids with those square faces, are like robots, unattractive, especially women.
OTOH, not all Dutchs are faelids. For instance, this one is not faelid imo, at least not pure.

northern europeans/germanic people are generally ugly

[Antimage]

the shortest in Holland are the immigrants, like Africans, Surinamese, Indonesians and such groups, they are midgets next to Dutch people
later on the "Dutch" height will start to shrink because of such groups

dutch people weree the shortest europeans 200 years ago. anything can happen. those minorities will gradually become taller if they eat proper diet