New paper! Greek DNA outside of Greece.

[Longbowman]

OK but you're not answering me.

Do you think the people on Ikaria, Samos, Chios, Rhodes, etc. and Sicily were similar in ancient times? If so, it does not say anything about Greekness. And all of these people differ genetically from those in the western Mediterranean.

They're similar today, what's your point? probably been similar for all time.

[Sikeliot]

They're similar today, what's your point? probably been similar for all time.

There we go. So quantifying Greek autosomal admixture is near impossible.

[Seth MacFarlane]

Why do you want Sicilians to be Greek?

lol i think your misunderstanding him . i think he means the opposite . that sicilians are mainly neolothic people with indo euro admix like you said , and they are not similar to mainland greeks. when he said siclians were "heellenized " what he really meant was that most people claim that sicilians are mostly of greek dna but its morso neolithic farmers influence ,but greeks had influence in the culture and history

[Sikeliot]

lol i think your misunderstanding him . i think he means the opposite . that sicilians are mainly neolothic people with indo euro admix like you said , and they are not similar to mainland greeks. when he said siclians were "heellenized " what he really meant was that most people claim that sicilians are mostly of greek dna but its morso neolithic farmers influence ,but greeks had influence in the culture and history

That is closer to what I meant. What I really meant was that when we say now that Sicilians are close to Greeks, we mean islanders... but this would also be true even if not a single Greek speaker had ever settled on the island. Being technical, even though I think Sicilians are and have always been a Neolithic Eastern Med type of people, we also have Greek, Roman, Lombard, North African, Phoenician, Iberian, French, Swabian in us in small amounts and there are probably other ethnicities I am not even naming, we are that mixed.