the christ within - god is in you not outside of you

[revealman]

humans are made of two fold consciousness

we have the unconditioned self = it is the primal higher self which is the witness within it is free from conditioning
we have the conditioned self = it is the conditioned self which we develop after contact with people and environment plus education, it is false because it is based on beliefs and false ideas

all spiritual teachings emphasize that we free ourself from conditioning to experience our primal state of unconditioned love/oneness/egoless being

the conditioned self ego is never able to make on happy cause its unsatiable and greedy and lives in self delusions
it is the root of all evil and suffering cause it breeds separation, desires, doubt, fear, attachment, greed, pride, hate and jealousy plus many self delusional thoughts

this is why buddha and jesus said the meek (unconditioned) will inherit the kingdom of god

And he said: "Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

it is because children are unconditioned live in the present and are meek and egoless, after parents conditioning they develop the false senso of ego and separation which brings to them suffering and pain because they think they must be like others want them to be to be accepted

EGO = Edging God Out
EGO thinks GOD is something to search for in the external world through work, struggle, achievements, success, goals, desires... it forgets that we already have the GOD self within us underneath the conditioned false self EGO layers..

http://www.bhakti-yoga-meditation.co...nt-theory.html

https://books.google.at/books?id=5bW...page&q&f=false

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Happiness of the World
is Like a Dog's Bone

Once a dog was chewing on a bone. The bone broke and some shards cut his gum and it started to bleed. The blood mixed with the taste of the bone in his mouth. While he was chewing, the dog thought, "This is the tastiest bone I have ever eaten!"

In actual fact, the dog was tasting his own blood and transferring the source of the enjoyment to the bone. The Upanishads say that the happiness of the world is like a dog's bone. How so?

Our thinking is like the blood of the dog. We add our thinking and understanding to what we perceive through our senses and give it a positive or negative value. We ourselves convince ourselves that something is necessary for our happiness. When we come into the association of what we pre-decided would make us happy, we feel happiness. Our feelings of happiness arise in the mind on the base of our own thinking.

"There is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so."
William Shakespeare

This means that nothing is a source of happiness in maya. Likewise nothing is a source of sorrow. We think someone is a a source of happiness, but the source of happiness is our own mind. In their association, we feel joy, but that joy is based on our own thinking.

Otherwise, maya is just a lifeless energy. Maya is a neutral power. It is neither good nor bad, neither a source of happiness nor sorrow.

http://www.bhakti-yoga-meditation.co...nt-theory.html

[revealman]

Ego is innate in everybody. Ego thinks my way is the only way. It thinks that I must win or lose. That is why it is so hard to surrender because when you surrender to the other person, they will break your ego. Ego is nothing but the need for attention. If you uncover it you will see that right from the childhood humans strive for attention; when they are young they cry to get their mother’s attention, when they are older they still look for other’s approval for their actions. Somehow we are brought up to believe that somebody else must approve of us. If you examine the lives of most people around you, you will see that people take upon big loans and mortgages to buy expensive houses, cars or other material things just to look good even though they cannot afford that luxury.

Ego is always dormant in everybody and it only raises its hood in resistance. When there is criticism or an opposing or differing view from the other person and you feel anger, at that time you must realize that it is the Ego, which is hurt.

[revealman]

[wvwvw]

It's about time you started a topic about how Christ stole his whole philosophy from Buddhism monks

[revealman]

AS WITHIN - SO WITHOUT

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ORIGINAL SIN as Hindu scriptures state is MAYA or illusion or FALSE KNOWLEDGE. Hinduism states that, the ability to discern "RIGHT AND WRONG" "GOOD & EVIL" is duality perception, which is indeed So, the HINDU MAYA is indeed the ORIGINAL SIN.

The ORIGINAL SIN is very difficult to analyze without the Hindu concept of MAYA and DUALITY. The only crime Adam committed in the garden is attaining FALSE KNOWLEDGE. That is the reason why he was aware of his nakedness. The SERPENT only depicts the inner weakness of the man.

Hinduism states that MAYA or ILLUSION caused by DUALITY PERCEP-TION [ Original Sin ] is the cause of all problems. SALVATION is realizing the TRUE KNOWLEDGE that THERE IS ONLY ONE and NOT TWO.

Unless and until we achieve that ONENESS, we will never have peace. That ONENESS we can achieve only within us.

IF WE ARE LOOKING FOR A PEACEFUL WORLD, THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. we will always have wars and rumors of wars. As long as we perceive Duality, all types of wars will go on .

PERENNIAL PEACE, as Aldous Huxley describes, can be achieved only WITHIN EACH ONE OF US. All of us can argue and look for a savior who will straighten out everything, but that hope is only A PIE IN THE SKY.

Each one of us have to work and achieve salvation of self-realization through one of the 4 methods:
JNANA YOGA [ path of knowledge];
KARMA YOGA [Path of unattached, unmotivated actions];
BHAKTI YOGA [ complete self-surrender to the God within];
RAJA YOGA [ pranayama & breath control].

So what is the answer. SEARCH WITHIN, WHAT EVER WAY YOU CAN. This does not mean to stop working, or encouraging laziness. Instead work hard, UNTIL YOU REALIZE UNIVERSE AS ONE.

I hope the explanation I gave make sense. To me, the Holy Bible carries a lot of symbolism and it will be wrong to come to hasty literal conclusions. I believe St. Augustine, when he said: KNOWLEDGE ALWAYS EXISTED. IT BECAME CHRISTIAN AFTER THE BIRTH OF JESUS CHRIST. So Hindu Vedas and Buddhist Dharmapada should concur with Jesus. They cannot differ.

I WISH TO CONCLUDE BRINGING UP IMPORTANT POINTS ONCE OVER AGAIN.
1. Original Sin can be explained ONLY by "Hindu Dualism & Maya theory." I feel Hindu concept of Dualism make sense, since no other THEORY explains the Original Sin concept well.

2. I feel the whole story of Adam & Eve, is the figment of imagination of great Jewish seers, to explain the difficult and complex nature of creation. Almost everything in that is symbolic.
ADAM is the symbolism for INTELLECT
EVE is the symbolism for SENSES
SERPENT is the symbolism for INERT WEAKNESS
TREE is the symbolism for DUALITY OF GOOD AND BAD
GOD is the symbolism for the IMMORTAL SOUL WITHIN

3. IMMORTAL SOUL [Eccl 9:5,10]is not taught in the Holy Bible. I feel it was systematically deleted from the Bible, since it was of Eastern and Greek origin. I feel IMMORTAL SOUL, is the unknown puzzle in the Bible. If you add that, you will see much of Biblical discussions make sense.

4. It is unbelievable that God threw man out of the garden for eating ONE FRUIT and cursed the woman, I WILL GREATLY MULTIPLY YOUR PAIN IN CHILD BEARING: IN PAIN YOU SHALL BRING FORTH CHILDREN.....AND YOUR HUSBAND SHALL RULE OVER YOU....
So, I conclude ADAM & EVE is just a parable, to explain the complex nature of creation. I love that story and I respect that, but also know that it is symbolic.

5. Jesus Christ said that all those great mysteries of the universe were revealed to those who were spiritually awake but to others must be told in parables. As far as I know, GNOSTICS were spiritually awaken people and it was the greatest blunder to throw them out of Christianity. Gnostic taught the whole story SYMBOLICALLY and ALLEGORICALLY. Some of them even taught SERPENT'S POINT OF VIEW. I feel those NEW AGERS and A COURSE IN MIRACLES are rebirth of GNOSTIC.
6. Philo described Genesis story in many ways. Philo sees ADAM representing STRONG HUMAN MIND, and EVE representing SENSES, female element or passion.

7. GNOSTIC state that the GOD IS WITHIN US and our human nature make us to forget that important fact. According to PTOLEMY, a follower of VALENTINUS, the story of Adam & Eve shows that HUMANS LOST THEIR DIVINE CONSCIOUSNESS AND ACCEPTED MATERIAL CONSCIOUS-NESS.

8. All we are reading today about ORIGINAL SIN was written and preached by one man, St. Paul, who was a zealous persecutor of Christians once. I salute St. Paul for his fanatic love affair with the deity of Jesus Christ, but remember he also attacked THE FREE THINKING SPIRIT IN CHRISTIANITY, by his statements about WOMEN, SEX, HOMOSEXUALS, REINCARNATION etc. On other hand as I described before, St. Paul might be telling the truth, but due to limitations in the language, his interpretations look erroneous. If St. Paul's teachings are taught with HINDU MAYA in background they make sense.

9. WHAT WE SEE IS AN ILLUSION. When we dream we see that as real. In the dream we enjoy and agonize over different situations. When we comes out of dream we will say, HI! It was only a dream. Hinduism states that our present life is a dream. We are constantly jumping from one dream to another, in never ending cycles. We will go out of these only when we have self_realization. That realization may happen in one life or in million lives. But every one will achieve that one day.

10. It is said that the earliest champion of BINARY system GOTTFRIED WILHELM LEIBNIZ, laid down the foundation work of Modern computer, based on YIN & YANG. Just think of it, between just ON and OFF positions of countless switches, COMPUTERS ARE GENERATING A WORLD OF MULTIPLE DREAMS RIGHT IN FRONT OF ALL OF US. Computer is the perfect example of DUALITY [binary] and ILLUSION.

11. WE DO NOT SEE THIS WORLD AS AN ILLUSION, SINCE WE ARE PART AND PARCEL OF THAT ILLUSION. For example, a model's face is extreme-ly beautiful to the naked eye, but under a powerful microscope it is filled with ugly dirt and hairs. SO IT IS TRUE, WORLD IS RELATIVE AND OUR EXPERIENCES ARE RELATIVE, UNTIL WE MERGE WITH THE FINAL TRUTH.

12. Hinduism does not teach to reject the material world and lead a lazy life. In fact, Bhagavad Gita encourages man to do his duty. NOBODY SHALL GIVE UP ACTION UNTIL A TIME COMES WHEN HE SEES A WORLD AS ONE.
To run away from duty, will only make a man to do harmful things to himself and others. It is literally true that an idle mind is a devil's workshop. Again, the Hindu Bible, the Bhagavad Gita was told in a battle field and after the discourse, the disciple annihi-lated the attacking army.
So Maya Philosophy does not support INACTION or LAZINESS.

13. Why prince Siddharatha, who left his wife and kingdom to find READY MADE answers to SICKNESS, OLD AGE & DEATH could not give any answer, when he became BUDDHA ?
Why Jesus Christ could not solve the problems of the world?
Why Lao Tse said: HE WHO KNOWS NEVER TELL; AND HE
WHO TELLS NEVER KNEW?
Why Einstein who tried to develop a unified theory to answer all riddles of universe miserably failed and said: WE ARE LITTLE CHILDREN ENTERING A HUGE LIBRARY?
To all those questions, my answer is ULTIMATE TRUTHS ARE BEYOND MIND AND BEYOND DUALITY PERCEPTION. If we will never find answers, if we try to logically analyze. That is why Buddha could not give us any answer. That is why Jesus could not give us any crystal clear answer to the puzzles and paradoxes in the world.
ALL ANSWERS WE CAN ONLY EXPERIENCE WITHIN US. If anyone try to put in words, those answers he/she will miserably fail. I wish every one will follow Gnostic and people like them.
SEEK WITHIN AND NOT WITHOUT. I BELIEVE THAT A DAY WILL COME, WHEN A HUMAN BEING WILL BE MANUFAC-TURED IN THE LAB, WITHOUT THE HELP OF A MALE SPERM & AN FEMALE EGG. Then we could shout and say: MAN FINALLY ACHIEVED IN CREAT-ING ILLUSION JUST LIKE GOD...

14. The more the science advances, the more you will witness that human life as we see it, is purely mechanical.

A day is not far off, WHEN SCIENCE WILL ARTIFICIALLY MAKE HUMAN BLOOD AND OTHER BODY PARTS. Already in Sweden and Denmark, they are using pigs to provide human plasma.
A DAY IS NOT FAR OFF, WHEN A HUMAN WILL BE MANUFACTURED IN A LAB, WITHOUT THE DONATIONS OF A MALE SPERM AND A FEMALE EGG. That time you and I can jump and up and say, GOD MADE ILLUSION, NOW MAN STARTED MAKING ILLUSION.

So what is the final answer: SEEK OR SEARCH WITHIN. Try to find out the REAL "I" instead of treating the IMPERISHABLE BODY as "I".

http://waypub.fatcow.com/ed/whatisoriginalsin.html

[revealman]

In the literal story, God placed Adam in the Garden. In the beginning, Adam was alone; Eve had not been separated from him. Adam was therefore whole. This is representative of the conscious and subconscious working in perfect unity and harmony, which is also reflected by the paradise (Garden of Eden) in which Adam dwelled. In this state of unity consciousness, Adam was ONE with God. As the story continues, we learn that God placed Adam in a deep sleep (the realm of forgetfulness and consciousness fracture) and Eve was created. In this new state of being, Adam represents the waking conscious of mankind and Eve represents the subconscious. When the conscious and subconscious are no longer in unity, the state of Paradise (inner joy and peace) can no longer be maintained because the ego will take control. Thus the fall! And of course the literal story presents us with this in the form of expulsion from the Garden. As the story goes, Eve is tempted by the serpent or Satan (ego), and because the ego took over the driver’s seat of man’s soul, Paradise lost becomes man’s reality. This is also spiritual death. And spiritual death = separation from God.

As we stated earlier, Adam represents man’s waking conscious and ego, and Eve represents the subconscious. Ordinary consciousness is represented by the male aspect (Adam) because consciousness has the power to impregnate the subconscious (Eve) to produce the physical reality we experience. The subconscious, or female aspect (Eve), is the power of birthing and creating on the physical plane. This is where the concept of “Mother Earth” comes from. It has nothing to do with a literal female deity in its original understanding. It is only an explanation of consciousness, just like the story of Adam and Eve. Remember, Eve is the “mother of all living”. In other words, our subconscious is the mother that births our reality. This is also why the Bible states that man will RULE over the woman after the expulsion from the Garden. This is not to be taken literally. As it now stands, your conscious self rules over the subconscious. In other words, your conscious thought (male aspect) impregnates the subconscious (female aspect) with the seed of your waking consciousness. If your conscious self dwells on negativity, your subconscious, which is the real birthing/creation powerhouse, will produce that effect for you. And negativity becomes your reality! Remember, the battle is between the ears! It’s all about the mind.

http://www.spiritofthescripture.com/...ciousness.html

https://m.facebook.com/notes/cullen-...2489539557346/

http://thehiddenlighthouse.blogspot....2012/09/a.html

http://www.werone.co/spirit/Ancient_...p#.Vd8I2OUZncw

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