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    we were taught from young age in history that babylon and roman emoire does not exist anymore. but thats a lie cause all signs in our society show we are still living under roman empire/babylon and it never ceased to exist and it even expanded its power around the globe! nothing changes since then, only technology! the laws of the society are the same! the TPTB are the same ancient lineage of pharisees and self proclaimed kings/caesars/tsars/kaisers!

    http://buddyhuggins.blogspot.co.at/2...l#.VdAmvOUZncw
    http://www.mylesohowe.com/worldgovernment/
    http://this-present-crisis.blogspot....update_10.html
    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...nspiracy37.htm
    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/va...vatican18b.htm

    The main characteristics of river civilizations were:


    * Their strong political power. The king kept control of everything, from politics to religion. He passed laws to rule his country. The king was also in charge of the army which he created to protect his possessions.and many times the king had religious functions. There were also civil servants who helped the king to manage his possessions.
    * Society was very hierarchical. The population was divided into two very different groups: few of them were privileged people and the majority were subjugated people. Most of the lands and riches belonged to the first ones, the privileged people.

    Privileged groups were a minority who had all the rights and possessed most of the wealth.
    * The aristocracy consisted of the king, his family and the nobility. They owned a great part of the land and were in charge of the highest positions in the army and government.
    * The priests, who lived in the temples, led the religious rituals. They possessed part of the land and craft workshops and co-operated with the government.
    * The scribes stood out among the civil servants. They came from noble families and had great power. They were assigned other tasks such as being couriers, managers, cup-bearers, etc.
    The rest of the population was divided into either free people who had rights, or slaves who had not rights and were treated as objects.
    Some of these other free people were:
    * Peasants, who rented the lands that surrounded the city. These lands belonged to the king or the temple. To keep them the peasants had to give the temple or the king part of the harvest they obtained. They usually cultivated barley, wheat, beans, chickpeas, cucumbers, etc. with rudimentary ploughs.
    * Craftsmen, who worked in workshops. There were different craftsmen according to their specific work: weavers, carpenters, goldsmiths, perfumers, etc.
    Women were the property of men. They did not always work and when they worked, their pay was half of what an adult man earned.

    Nine out of ten Egyptian men and women were peasants. They were very poor and lived in small mud-brick houses along the River Nile.



    It was very difficult for peasants to survive. They had a very difficult life. The pharaoh, the priests and the noblemen owned the lands and the peasants cultivated them. In exchange for their work, they could have a part of the harvest, but they had to give another part to the landowners and they had to pay a sum to the pharaoh as a tax.

    All the family participated in the different farming tasks : the men ploughed and the women sowed; both did the harvesting. The children helped their parents since they were very young.

    Their work was very hard. Most agricultural tools that they used were similar to those of earlier times: for example, the sickles and the hoes were made of stone, wood or bronze. But they used a new tool which made their lives easier: the plough. With the plough it was not necessary for peasants to bend their backs to cultivate the land. They could also make deeper furrows.

    During the season of the Nile floods, peasants were recruited by the pharaoh to participate in the construction of pyramids and other public buildings.

    Other professions in Egyptian civilization were: sailors, soldiers, craftsmen and merchants.

    * Sailors travelled by ship to far away lands to buy wood, metals and perfumes.

    * Soldiers fought in wars and, in exchange, the pharaoh gave them with lands, gold and slaves.

    * The majority of the craftsmen worked for the pharaoh. The most important were: stone carvers, sculptors, goldsmiths and papyrus and linen* manufacturers.

    * Merchants sold products. Since money did not exist in Egypt at that time, they used barter. Barter means that they exchanged some products for others.
    Slaves

    They were usually war prisoners and had no rights. Most of them were owned by the pharaoh, although priests and noblemen had slaves too. The pharaoh used them for building great monuments, working in copper mines or as soldiers.

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    from my older thread you can see how we are still ruled by roman law and trickery:
    http://www.google.at/url?url=http://...5kB1ukfGuDFnNg




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    The concept of bread and circus has appeared in numerous societies, but in slightly different forms. In ancient Rome, the “bread” was grain, given freely to citizens, while, the “circus” consisted of a combination of gladiatorial and field (ex. chariot) games. As technology has advanced, the American “bread” has become cheap food, subsidized through SNAP (food stamps), while the “circus” has become mindless and vapid digital entertainment (ex. the Kardashians, Duck Dynasty, etc.).

    Despite the technological updates to the term, the general idea remains the same: The societal elite can placate a population with the bare minimum required to eat and enough amusement to pass the time, in order to keep them under control. This placation gives the elite the ability to do fundamentally unpopular and damaging things, without having to worry about the population revolting en mass—enough people are lulled into inaction by the fact that they are just scraping by and believe that they will one day be one of the elite.

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    God bless america is very interesting to me.Of course the God of this world Satan has blessed America with msking her the daughter of Babylon.From its inception thefounding fathers were a bunch of luciferian freemasons from the Jesuit front organisation named Illuminati.James Madison George Washington Thomas Jefferson were all freemasons.The Jesuit Order formed in 1500 in Rome by the Borgia Aldobradini Somaglia Farnese Orsini Medici Colonna Gaetani Breakspear Pallavicini and black nobility royal houses of Holy Roman Empire .Pope Alexander vi Rodrigo Borgia called for the Portuguese knight templars to explore the Americas and Africa and take lands and convert all to Christianity by force and take slaves.With the papal bull regimini militantis ecclessiae pope Paul v Farnese called lgnatius loyola and diego lainez to form the Jesuits the babylonian brotherhood of Saturn.Their logo is IHS skull and bones.This is after the popes army the knights templar brought by pope Callixtus a khazar called for the crusades when they found secret knowledge in Jerusalem Egypt Babylon etc.The knights came with the secrets of fallen angels genesis 6 their plan to bring all races to fight agsinst Yahshua the real messiah when he comes to rescue the real hebrews.The templars were from England France Aragon Germany etc.In 800AD Charlamagne had been crowned king of the Holy Roman Empire.The templars became richer than monarchs and lent money and bankrupted them.In 1200s the templars possessed london and 1215 king John signed England to the Vatican in magna charta.There were two Christian sects in Europe Western Roman Catholic Church and eastern byzantine church.After the 700s khazar jews migrated to Germany Austria and Spain.They were involved in money lending and occult.The knights templars under Jacque de Molay were rounded up and burnt on stake by king Phillip of France and many escaped to Scotland.Racism was not invented and the black moors ruled midfle east North Africa Spain Portugal etc.They built a lot and Europe was not developed through the dark ages.The age of enlightment and renaisance period emerged after knowledge was brought from Asia and Africa.Satanic cults emerged.The jewish Sabbatean Frankists the rosecrucians the gnostics freemasons kabbalists etc.Since there was always wars in Europe nations were bankrupted.The Bardi and Perruzzi banks in 12th century the Venetian republic had Medici lombard bankers.The Medici were khazars and popes in Rome.Venice had a roman type republic gvt and huge navy.They used religion to make people fight muslims against christians the mongols looting etc.They sent Marco Polo to China to get technology.Gunpowder and paper money was invented in China.He brought silk tea and warfare tech back.The pope had been Pontifex Maximus since the old roman empire of Julius Caesar.The Jesuits opened many universities owned by Roman Church.

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    So Feudalism was introduced in Europe and the Church kings and lords owned vast amounts of land and taxed the masses.The pope had influence in choosing kings and roysl families intermarried.The war of the league of cambrai was between the the pope with guelphs and their cousins ghibellines holy roman emperor Maxmillan.The house of este which the Queen of England descent from.The Venetian republic was disbanded after wars with the ottoman turks.The Jesuits were initially banned from all countries and in 1605 guy fawkes an english jesuit nearly blew the english parliament.Martin luther a rosecrucian called for the reformation against the catholics.The inquisition was called for and many were burnt in the name if Jesus.John Calvin a kabbalist jew called for the formation of Dutch Reforned Church.So in France Calvin formed the Baptist Church.Both of these occultists formed churches.In 1611 king james called for Francis Bacon a rosecrucian occultist yo translate thr bible.The Vatican called for Amerigo Vesputti and Christopher Columbus to explore Americas.The templars were trading with India Goa and black israelite kingdons in west africa.The Jesuits are the military wing of the Roman Church.So the Jesuits wrote the Protocols if the elders of Zion.This included destroying the family takeover of property rights bringing pagan customs etc.So the Jesuits went underground and in 1773 commissioned Adam Weishaupt at their university in Ingolstadt to form the Illuminati.They needed to bring all luciferian organisations together for the New World Order.They needed to operate in a new country America.They made billions by se.ding Spain and Porturgal to enslve the native indian and latin tribes Americas.The house of Boubon of Spain are Jesuits.So many fled from Britain France Spain Italy Portugal greece Austria Poland Germany with a promise of gold etc.The English formed New England the dutch New York the French Quebec etc.Many natives were killed by the colonists who brought their messiah Jesus who was an image of Caesar Borgia.In 1814 the Jesuits were ruling full time in the Vatican.They had already opened banks in Frankfurt and Amsterdam.They brought the French revolution in 1785 with the motto liberty frartenity equality same as in Usa.One of the protocols was the abolition of monarchs not compliant.They brought freemason called Robespeare to murder King louie and Mary Antoinette.France became the first republic and had a freemason lodge in Paris where Thomas Jefferson was a member.In every country there is a masonic lodge where presidents kings bankers industrialists media meet.The Jesuits berlin conference if 1885 the colonisation of Africa.The europeans had already started the slave trade and had possessions in Asia America Pacific.The Jesuits caused the American civil war and wanted one country to fashion all their evil abd built a superpower.They commissioned Amshel Mayer Rothschilds to sent his sons to london Milan Vienna Munich and Paris to open banks controlled by them.They alreadu had sent William if Orange to overthrow the english monarchy and they put a german monarchy house of hanover after William.They now controlled Europe.Note Khazar Jews dont rule the World the Black pope of the JESUITS RULES.

    After the civil war the Jesuits called for the creation of a central bank in Usa controlled by them.The Vatican had 3 empire states London financial centre of theWorld Washington DC military centre and Rome religious centre.Presidents Lincoln and Andrew Jackson tried to stop them but were poisoned.The 2nd bank of America was opened.In 1871 Albert Pike a member of the ku klux klan and and Scottish rite freemadons planned 3 world wars to bring the Antichrist rule.The ist was between the germans vs english to bring about the league of nations .2nd World War was to bring Nazism vs Zionism and zionism will firm the state of Israel.3rd WW Islam vs Zionism mutually destroy each other.Athiests vs terrorists destroy each other.Christians and moral people to be persecuted and taught the worship of lucifer happening niw in your church.So Usa was to develop during Ww1.The slave trade colonialism and the opium wars built Europe and America economies.Can you say God bless America?In the 1920s Usa was rich and the Jesuits had the popes knights of malta knights if equestrian order knights of st john etc.All professors church clergy colonialists indusyrialists bankers were now part of the Vatican controlled by the black pope.The Jesuits killed jew millionaire Jacob Astor in the Titanic.In 1930s they brought Jesuit freemason Franklin Roosevelt to power.They gave jews permussion to control money for the Vatican to confuse people.Rothschilds sent jew bankers Max Warburg Jacob Schiff Jp Morgan Shroeder to Jekyll island New York to open the Us federal reserve bank a private company owned by Rome.So they were granted permission and Usa the bankers caused the great depression in1929 the Vatican signed the Lateran treaty with their puppet Benitto Mussolini a Nazi Jesuit.The Jesuits had already caused the Crimean war Russian Revolution etc.In the book of daniel it tells you abiut Rome last empire.So if you live in Usa know that Vatican Jesuits own you the Usa is a crown corporation of the Vatixan Crown .All ciuntries outside Europe are colonies and the indepenence is fake.All leaders are the popes knights in diffrent fratenities like George Bush John kerry skull and bones at Yale jesuit university.The CIA and FBI are pope spies William Casey Edgar Hoover knights of Malta.NATO soldiers of white nations Usa Canada Uk Germany Italy Georgia Poland Sweden Portugal Spain etc is controlled by the black pope.Music industryHollywood Media is controlled by the black pope.This is the Saturnalia brotherhood who dont marry and are homosexuals and high interdimensional sorcerers.Look at the masonic map of district of Columbia.You have Egyptian obelusk in Washington DC London Rome and geometry aligned to the stars Orion pleaides sirius saturn serious sorcery synagogue of satan

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    The American eagle is a symbol of the nation of Edom obadiah prophecy.When Usa landed on the moon they said the eagle has landed.Reader note that all Us presidents are related to holy roman empire Charlamagne and Queen of England etc.The New World Order was for families to intermarry keeoing the same bloodline of canaanites fallen angel blood check burkes peerage.The same families are ruling this World.Some have changed their names to deceive.In 1933 the Vatican wanted ti bring about their next man Adolf Hitler after su cess with Napolean Mussolini Woodraw Wilson Lenin Karl Max Stalin etc.Hitler was an illegitimate son of Rothschilds .He was half Jewish and the Jesuit father staempfle wrote his book mein kampf.Madame blavasky a luciferian brought the swastika a symbol of buddism from china.She taught him the theory of the aryan race of Atlanits which was destroyed in the flood.TheJesuit order ordered the Rothschilds to cause inflation in Germany.People carried wheelbarrows of money like in Zimbabwewhen they refuse jesuut control gvt.Pope Pius XII signed the Reichconcordat with the Nazis bringing them to power.Usa was ordered by the pope to provide money equipment trucks fo the Nazis.The Nazis were the popes knights if tge sedes sacronum SS.At the Vatican the Nazi flag is there but black people still go to church instead of keeping laws statutes commandments.Hitler achieved a lot for Rome.His symbol was an eagle a symbol of Satan horus zeus.Interdimensional sorcery was used at concentration camps moloch sa crifices and more technology developed .The swastika a symbol of satan at thetemple of Jupiter at baalbek lebanon.So Brown brothers Harriman and Prescott Bush sponsored the Nazis.Rockefellar Henry Ford Carnegie etc sponsored theNazis.America was a superpower and had a dream the American dream.After the war the United Nations was formed by the Vatican Jesuits.After the Balfour declaration for the Pope takeover of Jerusalem Fake jews were ferried to Israel isis ra elohim.So this is where their leader whom they call Jesus Christ aka apollyon will rule from.Do you know Emperor Constantine had a statue of sol helios apollo before the name jesus iesous daughter of apollo false messiah.So Usa had to fashion all evil to theWorld for all to sin after WW2.Las vegas casinos gambling the mob vice and the introduction of social welfare.Feminism fashioned on tv to destroy the family.illuminati music industry hollywood fashion industry.Equal rights and black rights which were fake.Usa becamethe Jesuit apparatus after Hitler to attack any country for Rome.Hitler and De Gaulle of France signed European steel treaty which became the EU.All nazis went to live in USA to work with the gvt to develop the military industrial complex.Using hegelian dialect they fashioned Capitalist Usa vs Communist Russia both controlled from Rome to confuse people.All evil has been fashioned in Usa fir the World to follow .America the trendsetter of EVIL a corporationof Vatican Jesuits.IRS pays tax to Rome and England.Black America time to repent now you are not free the Jesuits mived money to China now.Follow laws statutes commandments.Those following church stop it all your pastors work for the Roman pope they want your SOUL .

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    Miseducation
    This is their main avenue for - initial and sustained - political control!

    Through the socially, historically, and scientifically flawed education of millions youngsters and adults. In addition, being able to observe and direct the professional path of the brightest students can help to further their own neurotic agenda, or at least not obstruct it.

    Consciousness-influencing (aka 'mind-control') through cultural and behavioral consensus-trance shaping is their sacred and secret "Soul science", their "Devince science of Governing", the "Matrix of mental control" which has been developed by the neurotic priesthood and implemented via their masonic networks for thousands of years.

    Can enough individuals break that 'magic' trance spell to stop the mass neurosis of humanity which puts us into a world of tragedy and pain?
    Sciences (and university research funding) for the purpose of socio-psychological control
    Subjects: politics/civics/law, military science, sociology/media, healthcare/psychiatry, 'Romanized' history, astronomy, pseudo philosophy about: culture, science, civics, ethics, morality and religion.
    Prominent elite schools:
    Stonyhurst College (UK, 1593, alumni)
    Georgetown University (US, 1634/1789, alumni)
    Fordham University (US, 1841, alumni)
    Fairfield University (US, 1942, alumni)
    * International Visitor Leadership Program (US, 1946/1961, alumni)
    In 1940 Nelson Rockefeller (Knight of Malta) was named Coordinator of Inter-American Affairs (the pre-cursor to the IVLP program). [13]
    "More than 200 current and former Heads of State, 1,500 cabinet-level ministers, and many other distinguished world leaders in government and the private sector have participated in the International Visitor Leadership Program." [14]


    Religious perversions and propaganda
    Cult promotion: Catholicism (and its variations and infiltrations), Freemasonry, Satanism, Mysticism, NewAge-ism, Ufology & Aliens (mainly used for disinfo and distraction, but sometimes for the cover up of advanced energy/military research). Cult and disinfo promotion is also done using popularized films, books, websites and events related to these topics.
    Catholic ecumenism through the Mennonite World Conference (1925, Switzerland, see also: [15]), World Jewish Congress (1936, Switzerland, see also: [16], [17]), World Council of Churches (1937, 340 churches), Lutheran World Federation (1947, 140 churches), Conference of European Churches (1959, 125 churches) meetings, World Alliance of Reformed Churches (1970, 214 churches), World Methodist Council (1881).


    Political and judicial meddling
    Tactics:
    Hegelian dialectic deception politics, by creating/infiltrating/controlling multiple sides to further their own agenda ("thesis + antithesis -> synthesis").

    Some examples:
    # Left v. Right political dogma: Democrats v. Republicans, Liberals v. Conservatives, Labour v. Tories, etc. This is the political duopoly trap, where the voting outcome can only swing in two main directions. Any emerging of true political opposition is deflected and extinguished by temporary controlled opposition spin-off's from the main parties and media blackouts and/or smear campaigns.
    # The present focus of many media corporations on "Muslim terror threats", especially after the mass trauma psyop of 9-11, is part of their strategy of tension, to divide groups by fear and polarize people's frustration and anger towards this synthesized enemy or its controlled opposition, instead of the real fascistic threat from the secretive power structures.
    # The artificial global food price crisis versus the centralization of food management structures (examples: Codex Alimentarius UN agenda, Genetically modified food controversies - such as the resistance to correct labeling and nutrient reductions compared to natural whole foods.)
    # Non-Aligned Movement promoted as a 'force against' the United Nations.
    Misleading people using casuistry.
    Masonic-insider promotion, infiltration, bribing, threats and assassinations.
    If the Catholic missions, the Jesuit miseducation and socio-political infiltration strategies do not work in a society, a covert - and later an overt - war-by-proxy is created to achieve their neurotic goals (see also the "Social perversions" point below).
    Using the many Concordats that have been signed with 'sovereign' nations, to give the Vatican institution special privileges.
    Socialist-fascist supranational union projects (see also: Continental unions):
    Central American Union (1991, "Central American Integration System")
    European Union (1993) (Euro currency), EU institutions and EU projects.
    # The EU has its origins in the European Movement (1947), which was founded by Knight of Malta Joseph Retinger, who also founded the Bilderberg Group (1954).
    African Union (2002)
    Asian Union (2002, "Asia Cooperation Dialogue")
    Pacific Union (proposed in 2003)
    South American Union (proposed in 2004, signed in 2008)
    North American Union (proposed in ?, Amero currency)
    # "The NACC (2006) is a largely secretive advisory council to the SPP (2005) consisting of representatives from 30 North American corporations selected by the Chambers of Commerce in the three nations." [20]
    Mediterranean Union (proposed in 2007)
    The Vatican City microstate is a member of: ITU (telecommunication), CEPT (telecommunication), Eutelsat (satellite communication), Intelsat (satellite communication), UPU (international mail) and the International Grains Council.
    The Holy See (Vatican organization) participates as an observer in: African Union, Arab League, Council of Europe, OAS (35 states of the Americas), IOM (migration), and in the United Nations (1942) and its many agencies:
    FAO (food and agriculture),
    ILO (labour),
    UNCTAD (trade and investment),
    UNEP (environment),
    UNESCO (education, science, and culture),
    UN-HABITAT (human settlements),
    UNHCR (refugees),
    UNIDO (industry),
    UNWTO (tourism),
    WFP (food programs),
    WHO (healthcare),
    WIPO (patents, copyrights and trademarks).
    It participates as a guest in NAM (?), and as a full member in IAEA (nuclear energy), OPCW (chemical weapons), OSCE (international 'security', 3.500+ staff).
    Other UN agencies:
    ECOSOC (economy),
    UNFPA (population and reproduction),
    UNODC (drugs control),
    UNDPI (public information)
    See also:
    Codex Alimentarius
    United Nations
    Lucis Trust

    Social perversions
    Fascism ideology (Inquisitions, Communism, Labor Zionism, Nazism, Socialism and centrally planned capitalism, Focus on: fear propaganda, conformity, surveillance and repression)
    Indigenous/Jewish/Christian/Muslim/sovereign culture genocides
    Poverty promotion and middle-class destruction
    Pedophile ring support

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    Did you ever ask yourself why the catholic jesuits in vatican church wear a yarmulke? JESUITS = JEWSUITS = LOYOLA

    Examples are the prominent, but certainly not the most powerful, Rothschild family (Knights of Malta) and the Rockefeller family (Knights of Malta, who got started using Rothschild financing for American oilfield exploitations).
    "These three financial families, the Rothschild's, Morgans, and Rockefeller's all do the bidding of the Jesuit Order because of Jesuit infiltration in their organizations. They do whatever is necessary to destroy constitutional liberty in America and to bring the pope to world domination. As we look back over the 20th century, we see how successful the Jesuits have been.

    They have continued to squander the wealth of America and continually attack its great constitution and civil liberties. Daily, the power of the pope in Vatican City increases. One day they will achieve total power again."
    These wealthy families function as financial supporters and proxies for the larger Jesuit & SMOM mafia banking operations.

    now you know the roman empire actually never fell! it is here alive an well!!! the jewsuits = jesuits are ruling the world.

    vatican spiritual rule, london financial rule and washington military rule!


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