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    Okay. I got a little off track with a calculator that has nothing to do with us, but which might help Indians and Western Asians. I hope they find their results satisfactory. Hunter gatherer vs Farmer.jpg These are my results from an older engine that apparently serves the anthropological purpose I thought the Gedrosian did. So, what are your scores? This might make for a productive and relevant discussion. Also, here's another link to the results from Eurogenes ANE K7 Admixture.Admixture.jpg Shall we discuss?

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    Before bed bump. G'night!

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    Bump it up thrice before I take my daughter home to WV.

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    Hunter Gatherer vs. Farmer
    Anatolian Farmer 26.41%
    Baltic Hunter Gatherer 24.82%

    Middle Eastern Herder 11.80%
    East Asian Farmer 0.29%
    Mediterranean Farmer 36.68%

    K7
    ANE 10.26%
    ASE 0.84%
    WHG-UHG 39.93%
    West_African 0.45%
    ENF 48.51%

    Woooo, early neolithic farmer pride! Maybe thats why I gravitated to working in Agriculture. I been farmin since before farms were farms
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    Hunter gatherer vs farmer:
    Baltic Hunter Gatherer 48.34%
    Mediterranean Farmer 34.45%
    Anatolian Farmer 13.54%
    South Asian Hunter Gatherer 1.92%
    Middle Eastern Herder 1.59%
    South American Hunter Gatherer 0.16%
    East Asian Farmer -
    North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
    East African Pastoralist -
    Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
    Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
    Bantu Farmer -

    ANE K7:
    ANE 14.85%
    ASE 2.32%
    WHG-UHG 57.25%
    East_Eurasian -
    West_African 0.42%
    East_African -
    ENF 25.16%

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    Some descriptions from Eurogenes blog :
    http://bga101.blogspot.fr/2014/09/eurogenes-ane-k7.html

    The ANE component is not modeled on the Mal'ta boy or MA-1 genome, the main ANE proxy in scientific literature, because this sample didn't offer enough high quality markers for the job. So instead, I used the non-East Asian portions of several Karitiana genomes from the HGDP.

    Ancestral South Eurasian (ASE): this is a really basal cluster that peaks in tribal groups of Southeast Asia. It's probably very similar in some ways to the Ancestral South Indian (ASI) component described by Reich et al. a few years ago.

    Western European/Unknown Hunter-Gatherer (WHG-UHG): this essentially looks like a West Eurasian forager component, and includes the forager-like stuff carried by Neolithic farmers (Oetzi the Iceman has 40% of it).

    Early Neolithic Farmer (ENF): I'd say that this is the component of the earliest Neolithic farmers from the Fertile Crescent.



    ANE 12.53%
    ASE 0.75%
    WHG-UHG 60.91%
    East_Eurasian 0.82%
    West_African -
    East_African -
    ENF 24.99%


    There's two big threads about this calculators with plenty of members results :

    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...results/page14
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...esults!!/page4

    K8 is better but not out yet on Gedmatch, it's still a good one for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    Some descriptions from Eurogenes blog :
    http://bga101.blogspot.fr/2014/09/eurogenes-ane-k7.html

    The ANE component is not modeled on the Mal'ta boy or MA-1 genome, the main ANE proxy in scientific literature, because this sample didn't offer enough high quality markers for the job. So instead, I used the non-East Asian portions of several Karitiana genomes from the HGDP.

    Ancestral South Eurasian (ASE): this is a really basal cluster that peaks in tribal groups of Southeast Asia. It's probably very similar in some ways to the Ancestral South Indian (ASI) component described by Reich et al. a few years ago.

    Western European/Unknown Hunter-Gatherer (WHG-UHG): this essentially looks like a West Eurasian forager component, and includes the forager-like stuff carried by Neolithic farmers (Oetzi the Iceman has 40% of it).

    Early Neolithic Farmer (ENF): I'd say that this is the component of the earliest Neolithic farmers from the Fertile Crescent.



    ANE 12.53%
    ASE 0.75%
    WHG-UHG 60.91%
    East_Eurasian 0.82%
    West_African -
    East_African -
    ENF 24.99%


    There's two big threads about this calculators with plenty of members results :

    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...results/page14
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...esults!!/page4

    K8 is better but not out yet on Gedmatch, it's still a good one for now.
    I'm personally looking forward to K8 coming out, but for now, it seems like Gedmatch has some halfway decent calculators of its own.

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    (Hey!) I don't remember this one so i will post it quickly :

    ANE 15.54%
    ASE 0.89%
    WHG-UHG 63.13%
    East_Eurasian 0.73%
    West_African 0.24%
    East_African 0.42%
    ENF 19.05%

    If anything looks weird, you tell me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eleonore View Post
    (Hey!) I don't remember this one so i will post it quickly :

    ANE 15.54%
    ASE 0.89%
    WHG-UHG 63.13%
    East_Eurasian 0.73%
    West_African 0.24%
    East_African 0.42%
    ENF 19.05%

    If anything looks weird, you tell me
    As a people, we really are more closely related than I thought. The highest scores are usually the Western European/ Unknown Hunter gatherers, followed by Early Neolithic Farmer, followed by Ancestral North Eurasian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eleonore View Post
    (Hey!) I don't remember this one so i will post it quickly :

    ANE 15.54%
    ASE 0.89%
    WHG-UHG 63.13%
    East_Eurasian 0.73%
    West_African 0.24%
    East_African 0.42%
    ENF 19.05%

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    Pal, you are betweeen us non Normands peasants and the fellow Brit around here. Nothing weird, you can still go ride in peace.

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