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Thread: The immigration crisis is actually a civil war within Whites (MY THEORY)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wadaad View Post
    \Upper class whites can afford to live insulated from the 'perils' of living near too many non-whites, while lower class whites can't. That's why lower class whites are far less liberal on racial and immigration issues...Lower class Whites are being replaced by refugees and 'illegal' immigrants
    Interesting theory, though I think you have a few too many confounding variables. First, you assert that one becomes liberal by moving away from minorities, implying that you start conservative on immigration. However, rural white communities across the US and Canada are some of the most conservative places.. and States/Provinces that are predominantly rural with low minority populations are consistently republican/conservative, and take a more hard line on immigration. In fact, at least in my hometown of Winnipeg the poor "central" areas, with whites/blacks/natives/filipinos, of the city consistently vote NDP (socialist for non-Canadians). I would argue that being isolated (economically, and geographically) from other groups makes one more xenophobic, not the reverse. Otherwise it would be big cities voting conservative, and rural voting liberal which is clearly not the case.
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    (((upper class whites)))*
    But you're right on everything else. This is a war jews waged on european people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Journeyman26 View Post
    Interesting theory, though I think you have a few too many confounding variables. First, you assert that one becomes liberal by moving away from minorities, implying that you start conservative on immigration. However, rural white communities across the US and Canada are some of the most conservative places.. and States/Provinces that are predominantly rural with low minority populations are consistently republican/conservative, and take a more hard line on immigration. In fact, at least in my hometown of Winnipeg the poor "central" areas, with whites/blacks/natives/filipinos, of the city consistently vote NDP (socialist for non-Canadians). I would argue that being isolated (economically, and geographically) from other groups makes one more xenophobic, not the reverse. Otherwise it would be big cities voting conservative, and rural voting liberal which is clearly not the case.
    but even in urban centers, the overwhelming conservative vote block is usually (middle and lower class) whites...for instance it was this core + winning the suburban immigrant vote that got Rob Ford the mayor of Toronto...vs the Liberal John Tory and his downtown upper class White vote block

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wadaad View Post
    but even in urban centers, the overwhelming conservative vote block is usually (middle and lower class) whites...for instance it was this core + winning the suburban immigrant vote that got Rob Ford the mayor of Toronto...vs the Liberal John Tory and his downtown upper class White vote block
    The dogmatic support of lower class whites for strongman parties like the conservatives has always fascinated me actually. I have totally seen what you described. Its mostly because the right will use "banner issues" like immigration, abortion, gay rights etc. to gather people to them, even though the vast majority of their economic policies will actually hurt the lower class. Much like left wing parties will you use the opposite side of that coin. Partisan politics opens up to people voting for the party regardless of policy. I have conservative friends who I could get to support any policy by saying it way the conservative party line before outlining the policy, and I have lefty friends I could do the same except prefacing it with NDP party policy.

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