MTDNA in Hispanics: Argentine 23andme Sample with 166 results

[sweetalmonds]

I am currently sharing 23adnme results with other 166 Argentines. This are the results




NOW, if i separate between Argentines with European Mtdna and Argentines with Amerindian Mtdna the results look like this





Its interesting to see that while people with amerindian Mtdna is less european on average, the difference is not that huge.

Averages for each group

European Mtdna
91% European
1.8% Middle Eastern
5.5% Amerindian
0.6% African
1% Unassigned

Amerindian Mtdna
73.3% European
1.5% Middle Eastern
20.6% Amerindian
1.8% African
2.8% Unassigned

What do you people think?

There were any person with Sub-Saharan African mtDNA?

[Argentano]

There were any person with Sub-Saharan African mtDNA?

the problem is that some haplogropus (Posibly African) i didnt know where to put so i let them as european.

Do you know about this? if you do i can post the haplogroups i didnt know where to put and you tell me if they are african

If i remember correctly i put A B C and D in amerindian Mtdna (there was one more but i dont remember) and the rest in european Mtdna

[Argentano]

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[Argentano]

Yesterday a good example for this thread added me in 23andme.

He is an argentine of Italian/iberian ancestry. He is 97% european 3% Amerindian and his Mtdna is Amerindian.

[sweetalmonds]

the problem is that some haplogropus (Posibly African) i didnt know where to put so i let them as european.

Do you know about this? if you do i can post the haplogroups i didnt know where to put and you tell me if they are african

If i remember correctly i put A B C and D in amerindian Mtdna (there was one more but i dont remember) and the rest in european Mtdna

L1, L4, L5 are SSA. L0 and L2 are Khoisan, Horn African, and/or SSA (L0d and L0k are particularly restricted to Khoisan peoples). L3 is pan-African (North and Sub-Saharan African) and Middle Eastern. L6 is Horn African and Peninsular Arabian (particularly Yemenite). Basically L# haplogroups are quite sub-Saharan.

[Argentano]

L1, L4, L5 are SSA. L0 and L2 are Khoisan, Horn African, and/or SSA (L0d and L0k are particularly restricted to Khoisan peoples). L3 is pan-African (North and Sub-Saharan African) and Middle Eastern. L6 is Horn African and Peninsular Arabian (particularly Yemenite).

Here you have the results for people with L Mtdna

What do you think? Most score insignificant SSA..





Caucasico is Caucasian (European + Middle Eastern)
Apellido is Surname


I think African mtdna is rare and in the cases it appears it could not be colonial. For example the first guy he scores like an italian

[Argentano]

It makes sense to me. What would be weirder is if it was flipped.

People with Euro MTDNA scoring more Amerindian on average

i saw this new interesting argentine result

Yesterday a good example for this thread added me in 23andme.

He is an argentine of Italian/iberian ancestry. He is 97% european 3% Amerindian and his Mtdna is Amerindian.

[sweetalmonds]

Here you have the results for people with L Mtdna

What do you think? Most score insignificant SSA..





Caucasico is Caucasian (European + Middle Eastern)
Apellido is Surname


I think African mtdna is rare and in the cases it appears it could not be colonial. For example the first guy he scores like an italian

L haplogroups are present in west-central (Lazio, Tuscany) and southern Italians and Sicilians in a 2-3% frequency according to Achilli et al., and around 7% in Canarian Islanders, according to Rando et al. and Fregel et al.; so it might be either a direct African migration to the Americas or an indirect African lineage via Europe. Also, since Argentina had a massive European immigration that lasted for 4-5 generations, the descendants of the 19th-century Argentine mulattoes are likely to be over 90% European today.

[Argentano]

L haplogroups are present in west-central (Lazio, Tuscany) and southern Italians and Sicilians in a 2-3% frequency according to Achilli et al., and around 7% in Canarian Islanders, according to Rando et al. and Fregel et al.; so it might be either a direct African migration to the Americas or an indirect African lineage via Europe. Also, since Argentina had a massive European immigration that lasted for 4-5 generations, the descendants of the 19th-century Argentine mulattoes are likely to be over 90% European today.

I have noticed that the only genetic studies that have Argentina over 3-4% SSA are the ones that have very few ancestry informative markers. when the AIM's are over 40 then the african is always low.

There is a new Argentine study that shows exactly that, that the more quantity of AIM's the the higher euro and the lower african/amerindian. Its pretty cool because i had this impression for a long time but now i have an actual study that proves it.

Thats why i prefer to use 23andme because it is much more complete and the same standard for everyone.

[Argentano]

L haplogroups are present in west-central (Lazio, Tuscany) and southern Italians and Sicilians in a 2-3% frequency according to Achilli et al., and around 7% in Canarian Islanders, according to Rando et al. and Fregel et al.; so it might be either a direct African migration to the Americas or an indirect African lineage via Europe. Also, since Argentina had a massive European immigration that lasted for 4-5 generations, the descendants of the 19th-century Argentine mulattoes are likely to be over 90% European today.

Here the test i talked about before

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...enetic-Studies