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    Quote Originally Posted by Debaser11 View Post
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    All countries are nice. It's the politics/religion that fucks them up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motörhead Remember Me View Post
    Is not!
    Touche, good man. Let me put it in more clear terms:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenna View Post


    There should have been a shade between neutral and like... For instance, I like Denmark more than I like Switzerland or Norway.
    Karl, i think you should paint Sweden darker, muuch darker.

    You want to kill with the fire TurksAren´t they Turanic??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motörhead Remember Me View Post
    All countries are nice. It's the politics/religion that fucks them up.
    Someone should really explain to you that countries are political entities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dominus Vobiscum View Post
    Someone should really explain to you that countries are political entities.
    Not really, people and geography differ completely from their governments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KEN View Post
    Not really, people and geography differ completely from their governments.
    I completely disagree. The foundations of countries stand on the politics of their peoples. The country, the state, is its self a political institution devised by the people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dominus Vobiscum View Post
    I completely disagree. The foundations of countries stand on the politics of their peoples. The country, the state, is its self a political institution devised by the people
    I think you're mixing three different concepts: country, nation and State. Thus, the definition of any of these three "jurisdictions" or "geopolitical levels" (looking for a neutral word here; insert your fav) also vary very much depending on the culture dealing with them.
    On top of things, politics often run a different path of the ethno-geographic make up of nations/countries/States. Easy examples in history, from remote to more recent: Galician Kingdom/Kingdom of Portugal (an interesting case where the national/cultural union was strengthen after the political separation), Austro-Hungarian Empire, French Republic, Soviet Union... etc etc.
    Sometimes a State is imposed into a People or group of Peoples, nation or group of nations, sometimes nations are disgruntled into a number of States or countries, or vice-versa, and so on, with little input from "the people"... Sometimes indeed there's a decent fit but that seems to be rare, unfortunately. Even in "modern western democracies" there often is a constant alternation between two major parties with (allegedly) opposing ideas, which reflects how fecked up (allegedly) "normal" societies can be.

    If there was a perfect match between politics, borders and popular wishes we'd be saving a lot on wars and social conflicts, don't you think?

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    Country and state are the same thing for me.. nation as well. Let us not kid ourselves, nationhood has been corrupted by the ideals of the French Revolution. Disregard its roots, it is not connected to ethnicity anymore.

    And the fact is that countries, states, nations, are political entities. They were born out of politics. How is two Germanic tribes coming into contact with one another, opening dialogue, arranging marriages &c any less political than what George Bush was doing in the Presidential Race? And at the end of the day, those Germanic tribes simply represent a very common system in which our modern nations and ethnicities were founded upon.

    I will go one step further and say that ethnicity its self is a political entity. What is politics but the social interactions between men? Discussing what is for dinner with the wife and kids is every much as political as whether or not you're going to nuke Iran.

    I am not saying it is all perfect.. I simply acknowledge that man is a political being and politics, at all levels, are laced throughout our societies.
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    If this is the case, then also monikers such as "Catholic" are political epithets, following the same line of reasoning. At least by function..
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