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    Most countries in Africa and the Middle East have not developed since they became independent. Many are in civil war, poverty stricken, rampant corruption, no public services, low infrastructure, primitive economies, very few universities and very low education standards. If their European colonial masters, that is the French, the British, the Italians, Spanish, Portuguese and the Belgians were still in charge, would those territories be a lot more developed?

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    I would say yes! Many of those countries were not ready for independence, but the Europeans were force relinquish their colonies due an anti imperialist movement as the cold war gathered pace.

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    Their low development is greatly attributed to the constant wars and rebelions that happen there.

    Its pretty hard to develop when you have to constantly defend yourself from neighbours who want to pillage you,thats some Balkan sympathy right there,we know how it is.

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    No, the west made it shitty in the first place, along with radical islam. In ancient times, that area was prosporous. Arabs invented Algebra (they also had ruling in YOUR country at one point too lol), Persians/Iranics invented a lot of complex math as well, along with wine, ice cream, the windmill, the first decleration of humans rights, cookies, alcohol in medicine, and wrote great poetry. Also, if Europeans still have the balls to mess with Afghanistan after the British were kicked out three times, I'll be damned. Nothing against Europeans, they're great people too, but just no.


    Love how you're probably one of those "EUROPE FOAR EUROPEANS" people, but you think it is a good idea for Europeans to invade the Middle East.

    The Phenocians were also pretty damn great, and so were many African civilizations, they were just tribal.
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    Interesting.
    The best example is undoubtedly Algeria.
    Under French rule, Algeria was the richest country in Africa and most developed.
    French settlers install all infrastructure, roads, hospitals, schools, medicines, vaccines, maritime trade, because everything before was only desert tribes and pirates.
    Since independence in 1962 the country became a shit pit, where everyone dreams of starting where all their buildings are the work of Chinese companies.
    We can talk about south africa which slopes standard of living since the Afrikaneer not have power.

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    Yep. While the imperial powers were exploitative (since it's in the nature of empires to conquer and exploit everyone and everything), they still (sometimes) pumped money into some development that while primarily aimed at the imperial agenda could also benefit the locals in terms of modernization and connexion with the industrial world, either directly or via a trickle-down effect.

    Of course, some might argue that these countries would have been better off left to their own devices, with no Western-style economic development. I don't necessarily agree because, where possible, various native pre-Western imperial rulers tried to take advantage of foreign technologies, anyway, albeit generally without much success. Moreover, some of the nations in question were once imperial powers themselves, and might even aspire to regaining that position. If that's the game they want to play, they must understand that they can fall victim to other empires. It's the way of the world. What anti-imperialist activists have to say on the matter doesn't change the reality.

    The modern global empire that these independent states have to deal with basically says to the natives, You want to run your own country? Fine, go right ahead, but we want your oil, gas, etc. and you shall sell it to us on our terms, or resist at your peril; and we want to control your monetary system, and control what military technology you have access to. It must be far cheaper this way. There's no need for local imperial bureaucracies and less expensive civil and military infrastructure to worry about. Since they are really only interested in the exploitation of resources, they can just bribe or bully native government officials into getting what they want, and if that doesn't work, support terrorism and regime change.

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    And Algebra was invented in India.
    The Arabs have never contribute to the development of mankind, but only in these darker aspects, such as dirt, violence, murder.
    The Arabs invented the worst disease of this planet: Islam.

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    In africa, yes, in the middle east, no. I know it's utopic as hell given human nature, but it would be best if nobody had colonized nowhere. Europe to europeans, africa to africans, asia to asians, americas to indians. On the other hand, I guess the world would be a lot more peaceful if the Roman Empire had never been invaded. Islam would be no more than a insignificant village of goatfucking farmers, the North of Africa would still be hellenic, a lot of wars in european soil wouldn't have happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NymphådoraBlüeBird View Post
    And Algebra was invented in India.
    The Arabs have never contribute to the development of mankind, but only in these darker aspects, such as dirt, violence, murder.
    The Arabs invented the worst disease of this planet: Islam.
    Babylonians invented Algebra, no matter how much people want to discredit them.
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