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    Quote Originally Posted by Shkembe Chorba View Post
    I have the same doubts as you, mate, dont get me wrong.

    Still, this hypothetical situation is a bit different, because imperialistic nations wanted to achieve whole Europe under their army, not a common one.
    Depends who will be leader of that army. Most likely Germans.

    But anyway, it will not happen. I can now imagine all the riots and some partisan movements against European Union threatening the independence of its members. It is already threatening it, although such army would be much more definite. What would be the oath be like? Currently in Polish oath is a reference to the Polish Constitution, Poland, its souvreignty and borders, etc. Nothing about European Union's interests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bezprym View Post
    Depends who will be leader of that army. Most likely Germans.

    But anyway, it will not happen. I can now imagine all the riots and some partisan movements against European Union threatening the independence of its members. It is already threatening it, although such army would be much more definite. What would be the oath be like? Currently in Polish oath is a reference to the Polish Constitution, Poland, its souvreignty and borders, etc. Nothing about European Union's interests.
    little bro, it'll be lke it was before: you'll do what germanian master say, romanians will try try to do but all they'll able to do - just shit and disorder, bulgarians will find any possible reason for do nothing, balkan slavics+albos will harras and murder each other instead do something else, true arian frenches and nordic nations will zelaously start to do but cry craven so fast as they can. Who is left? italians-hispanics? oh, they're the same romanians, but slightly more civiliced. turkeys? oh, fuck, romanians aren't worst in real.

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    While it could be very large and backed by the best technology, I can't imagine the European Soviet Union's army being as good at an individual soldier level as one of a national army with established customs and traditions because, among other things, I doubt the men would believe in it in the same way they could believe in the armed forces of their own country. We are tribal animals after all. If we are to risk our lives, it really helps if we believe in the cause.

    Instead, the soldiers could effectively become mercenaries on the payroll of a foreign power, which would also be the reality despite the propaganda they would be fed, and whether they realised it or not - the foreign power in that case being a global elite with no allegiance to the nation or culture of the soldiers themselves. It's not the foundation of a high morale, committed fighting force.

    Most people can sense when they are being taken for a ride, even if they can't put their finger on exactly what is happening, explain or prove it. When soldiers find themselves in that place, it's dangerous.

    While it would simplify the process for the global elite, there is no need for the EU to create its own military force. The forces of member states can train and fight alongside each other in joint operations without being homogenized into a blob of generic Europeanness, as they have already done on many occasions. It would be better for morale.

    We don't have enough information on supposed proposals, e.g. how homogenized the fighting force would be etc. The degree of homogenization is an important variable. To some extent, the less homogenized the force is, the more likely it could work without sacrificing the commitment of the men. Of course, that loss of commitment might be a price the elite are willing to pay, if they believe it can be compensated for by gains elsewhere.

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    let me be a baba Wanga: next armed disorder will be not against outer enemy, but inside eurounion.

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    As the EU tries to become a federation with an army, more Brexits will follow. It will lead to a rump-EU lead by Germany with a number of quisling states as members. This rump-EU will be the opposite of Nazi Germany though. It will be a Cultural Marxist heaven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ЛыSSый View Post
    let me be a baba Wanga: next armed disorder will be not against outer enemy, but inside eurounion.
    Is this what Matushka's media say? Vanga predicted the collapse of the Union? You guys really know how to spit on someone's remembrance in order to serve the sick interests of the Third Rome....

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    How many of the guys on TA could pass Special Forces Selection test as in Latvia? HOW MANY OF YOU ARE BRAVE ENOUGH?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marusya View Post
    How many of the guys on TA could pass Special Forces Selection test as in Latvia? HOW MANY OF YOU ARE BRAVE ENOUGH?
    If I'd think I am able to pass selection to any special forces, I would be probably quite busy at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marusya View Post
    How many of the guys on TA could pass Special Forces Selection test as in Latvia? HOW MANY OF YOU ARE BRAVE ENOUGH?
    They really filmed it like a drama show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bes166 View Post
    They really filmed it like a drama show.
    Can you do it?

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