New Puerto Rican 23andMe Results Analysis.

[BirdMan]

I'm not sure if the original thread was deleted in the crash, but I've added many more results since then.

As of now, I have exactly 200 results so I figured it was a good time to post.

Averages:

72.4% Caucasian
13.5% Amerindian
10.7% African
3.4% Unassigned





European (+ ME) Ancestry





African Ancestry

Range: .5% to 44.1%





Amerindian Ancestry






Individual Results:

Spoiler!

41.9 11.4 44.1
42 17 38.5
47.5 9.1 40.4
52.2 15.3 28.4
54.4 9.2 34.5
57.3 14.2 24.4
58.9 15.5 22
59.5 12.2 25.4
59.9 12 24.9
60.1 25 10.1
60.1 19.8 15.9
60.5 16.2 19.5
60.8 12.7 23.1
60.8 12.7 22.9
61.6 10.6 25.4
61.7 10.8 24.7
61.8 20.5 11.9
62 14.1 21.5
62.1 19.2 14.2
62.3 15.5 18
62.4 13.8 20.3
62.4 16.9 18.2
62.5 5.8 29.1
62.6 13.2 21.7
62.7 14.1 19.3
62.8 11.8 21
62.9 18.1 15.3
62.9 16.1 16.7
62.9 15.1 19
63.7 14.8 17.1
63.9 10.8 22.2
64.5 18.6 12.7
64.5 13.3 18.7
64.6 18 13
64.6 15.3 17
64.6 8.6 23.8
64.7 13.1 19.1
65.2 12.5 18.3
65.4 13.4 17.2
65.6 15.8 14.3
65.8 16.8 14.7
66.1 18.2 12.2
66.4 20.5 8.2
66.4 18.2 10.9
66.4 15.5 14
66.4 14.1 14.8
66.5 11.6 18.7
66.8 12.6 16.8
66.8 16.9 12
67 15.1 15.4
67 12.3 17.2
67.2 17.5 11.5
67.6 14.3 13.2
67.7 14.7 14
67.8 14.3 13.6
67.9 14.2 13.9
68 17.5 11
68.2 16.6 10.8
68.2 11.8 15.4
68.4 18.6 8.5
68.4 16.4 11.4
68.7 16.4 10.6
68.9 16.7 9.5
68.9 15.4 11
69 9.9 16.7
69.2 13.2 14
69.3 16.3 8.3
69.4 17 10.1
69.6 14 11.9
69.8 15.6 11.3
69.9 15.7 10.9
70.1 15.7 11.1
70.3 15.5 9.8
70.3 14.3 12
70.4 16.4 9.2
70.5 17 8.9
70.6 15.7 10
70.6 11 14.9
70.9 16 8.2
70.9 12.3 13
71.1 16.5 9.7
71.2 14.9 10.5
71.5 17.4 7.1
71.5 16.9 7.9
71.7 14 10.7
71.7 7.8 19
71.9 14.6 9.5
71.9 15.5 9.1
72 14.2 10.8
72.3 15.8 7.6
72.3 11.2 12.4
72.5 15.9 7.4
72.5 12.4 12.1
72.7 16.4 7.6
72.7 11.9 11.9
72.8 14.4 9.5
72.9 13.9 10.3
72.9 9.7 15.6
73 14.8 7.4
73.1 16.2 7.2
73.2 12.1 12
73.2 15.9 7.3
73.2 12.7 10.7
73.3 13.6 9.3
73.7 16.6 6.7
73.7 14.7 6.9
73.7 4.9 20
73.9 14.8 7.2
73.9 15.2 7.4
74 15 7.8
74.3 14.6 6.7
74.5 14.9 7.6
74.6 14.4 6.6
74.6 15.3 6.7
74.8 17.7 3
74.8 13.3 8.3
74.9 16.6 5.1
75 16.7 4.9
75.1 14.1 7.8
75.2 14.3 6.5
75.2 13.5 8
75.3 14.5 6
75.3 12.1 8.5
75.8 14.5 4.7
75.8 14 6.5
75.8 13.5 7.3
75.9 15.4 5.4
75.9 13.4 6.9
76 14.3 6.2
76.1 13.2 8.3
76.2 13.8 6.4
76.3 15.4 4.8
76.3 13.3 7.3
76.3 9.5 12.3
76.5 14.3 5.2
76.5 13 7.9
76.7 13.2 6
76.7 12.6 7
76.8 15.1 5.1
77 14.5 4.1
77 14.3 4.6
77.2 15.4 3.6
77.3 15.4 3.6
77.3 13.4 5.7
77.4 14.5 4.3
77.4 13.9 5.2
77.6 13.9 5.2
77.6 13.2 6.5
77.6 14.8 4.1
77.6 11.9 7.3
77.7 14.6 4.5
77.8 15 3.2
77.8 12.9 5.5
77.8 13.7 5.7
77.9 13.6 4.5
78 14.7 3.8
78.2 14.5 4
78.2 12.4 5.8
78.3 11.2 5.5
78.3 12.4 5.9
78.3 11.4 6.9
78.5 15 3.4
78.5 13.3 3.7
78.6 12.7 5.7
78.6 11.8 6.5
78.7 13.3 4.5
78.9 12.8 5.7
79.2 13.4 4
79.9 10.3 6.7
79.9 10 6.9
80.3 10.6 6.1
80.3 11.3 6.3
80.7 11.8 4.4
80.8 12.1 4.3
80.9 12.3 4.2
81.2 12.3 2.9
81.5 12.7 3.2
81.6 11.6 3.8
81.6 10.2 4.8
81.8 10.9 4.4
81.8 10 5.7
81.9 10.5 5.1
82.1 10.7 3.6
82.1 8.7 5.2
82.1 9.4 6.2
82.1 8.7 6.6
82.6 10.5 3.7
83.2 6.6 7.9
83.3 9.3 5.2
84 11.3 2.3
84.6 8.8 4
85 6.4 6.1
86.4 3.2 8.9
87.7 8.6 2
87.9 7.1 2.7
88.6 7 2.3
88.6 6 3.2
91.1 6.7 1.2
94.4 4.3 0.8
95.8 3.1 0.5

[BirdMan]

Average Person Likely to Identify as White

78.7% Caucasian
12.7% Amerindian
5.2% African
3.3% Unassigned

Average Person Likely to Identify as Trigueño/Mixed


69.0% Caucasian
14.7% Amerindian
12.5% African
3.7% Unassigned



Average Person Likely to Identify as Black

58.7% Caucasian
11.7% Amerindian
26.6% African
3.0% Unassigned

I created the categories based on a survey regarding self-identification in Puerto Rico. 46% of people identified as white, so I included the 46% most European people in the category. 10% identified as Black/Jabao/Mulato, so I included the 10% least European people in the Black category. I put the remaining people in the Trigueño/mixed category.

I'm not sure how accurate it is, but I think it gives at least some idea of how people might identify and what their ancestry might be.

[Costas]

I wonder what the average person who is 72% Caucasian, 14% Amerindian, 11% African looks like.

Average Chilean in 23andme is 69% Caucasian, 27% Amerindian, 1% African which is pretty easy to guess.. but the Puerto Rican average, can't really picture it.

Average Person Likely to Identify as White

78.7% Caucasian
12.7% Amerindian
5.2% African
3.3% Unassigned

That's not much different from my results actually.

[Argentano]

Excellent information. Very interesting.

You could add chart results by surname and by mtdna

[BirdMan]

I wonder what the average person who is 72% Caucasian, 14% Amerindian, 11% African looks like.

Average Chilean in 23andme is 69% Caucasian, 27% Amerindian, 1% African which is pretty easy to guess.. but the Puerto Rican average, can't really picture it. .

A few of them have pictures and the people in that range seem seem to be pseudo North-African types or completely European looking. One or two would pass for white Americans .

I'll post a few pictures, but I'll probably take them down in a bit because I don't want to violate their privacy.

Spoiler!

That's not much different from my results actually.

Interestingly, it seems that most of the less-African people (probably mainly of Western origin or middle class people) fall in the Castizo-Criollo range.

[Argentano]

Your results are similar to most PR genetic studies. PR seem to be one of the most if not the most homogeneous latinos. Most people seem to score between 55-75% euro with some amerindian and some african

[Costas]

A few of them have pictures and the people in that range seem seem to be pseudo North-African types or completely European looking. One or two would pass for white Americans .

I'll post a few pictures, but I'll probably take them down in a bit because I don't want to violate their privacy.

Spoiler!

Interestingly, it seems that most of the less-African people (probably mainly of Western origin or middle class people) fall in the Castizo-Criollo range.

Oh yeah you're right.

Haha yes indeed. I'm less African and more Amerindian than these White Puerto Ricans but the European input is pretty similar.

[BirdMan]

Oh yeah you're right.

Haha yes indeed. I'm less African and more Amerindian than these White Puerto Ricans but the European input is pretty similar.

How would the people in the "average" range be perceived in Chile?

[Sikeliot]

Do most Puerto Ricans in the US fall into this range, or is this just islanders? I feel like those I see, meet, and the celebrities I can think of have more African than this.

[Costas]

How would the people in the "average" range be perceived in Chile?

I don't really know, we don't have "races" in Chile just skin colours.

Someone can have European features and dark skin and he'll be a "moreno".. and then someone can have Amerindian features and white skin and he'll be "blanco".

Someone who is 72% Caucasian, 14% Amerindian, 11% African will probably have a relatively similar skin colour to the average guy from Santiago (who's something like 60% Euro, 40% Amerindian IMHO) because it's 12% more white but also 10% more African so they kind of balance each other out.

Voy a escribir en español porque estoy cansadisimo..

Yo sinceramente cacho repoco sobre rasgos africanos así que no sé bien desde qué punto son "percibibles".. onda si desde 10%, 15%.. si es desde 10% entonces el PR de 23andme promedio (digamosle PR de clase media promedio porque en verdad 23andme no es representativo) en Chile se va a ver como un blanco (pq al menos los de las fotos tienen piel relativamente clara) con rasgos exoticos (por ejemplo la señora de las 3 fotos en mi opinion tiene rasgos medios exoticos)..

Si es desde 15% SSA que se notan mas los rasgos entonces todo lo que esté bajo eso se va a ver simplemente como un weon blanco promedio.. pero en Chile blanco simplemente significa piel clara onda en Chile yo soy blanco y LA VEZ que me di la lata de explicar que no soy blanco técnicamente sino que castizo en verdad fue muy confuso porque si no posteai en estos foros obviamente no sabis nada.. asi que no tiene sentido explicar.. piel clara = blanco en Chile y sería)

Si teni la piel café tipo Alexis Sanchez, Arturo Vidal o el 90% de la seleccion de futbol chilena, eris "moreno" que en general va relacionado a rasgos mas indigenas onda ojos mas rasgados etc.

Yo diría que en general en Chile los caucásicos y castizos (30-35% de la población o algo así) son considerados blancos.. así que probablemente la mayoría de los PR de clase media de 23andme van a ser considerados blancos.. pero va a haber una minoria que va a ser considerada:

A-. si tienen la piel mas bronceada (pq la sangre africana igual pega fuerte) van a ser considerados morenos igual que la mayoria de los chilenos (60-65% de los chilenos son morenos que a grandes rasgos significa mestizos.. de ahi 30-35% blancos, 5% indigenas [geneticamente indo-mestizos] y un 2% de negros de Colombia/Brasil/Haiti/RD que han llegado miles el ultimo tiempo)

B.- si tienen rasgos africanos, que son muy raros en Chile, por mucho que tengan la piel relativamente clara van a ser considerados negros igual.. onda Alicia Keys en Chile es negra. Asi que si uno de estos PR de clase media promedio por mucho que sólo sean 15% SSA, llegara a tener rasgos tipo nariz ancha o labios grandes.. va a ser considerado negro igual, simplemente porque aca esos rasgos son casi inexistentes ergo llaman mucho la atencion

Me alargué un poco pero Chile es un pais super raro con el tema de la raza al punto de que la gente dice que no hay racismo pero en verdad es porque lo esconden detras del clasismo.. Jaja eso pero si, a grandes rasgos alguien 72% caucasico va a ser considerado blanco a menos que sus rasgos africanos resalten mucho o que su 28% no caucasico predomine en terminos de color de piel

Saludos jaja