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    Quote Originally Posted by glass View Post
    Yes you are wrong

    And how many actually participated?

    You own link says otherwise

    Even you own link says russians lost 143k dead versus 213-290k on other side

    Invasion army versus soldiers and militia at peak across whole country. Also look at death toll

    Keep dreaming, losers always try to find good excuse why did they lose.

    No they could not win military conflict by any mean. They managed to advance only because of incompetent command and poor moral among soldiers who did not want to fight for soviets and prefered to lay down weapons. THeir only way to win was to please population unwilling to defend bolsheviks which they miserably failed.
    Rightfuly you are proud about your victory. And i understand that. It was a huge victory. But lets not forget how Stalin begged to UK and USA to help Soviets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sokoli View Post
    Um, North Korea is twice as small as South Korea, that US was protecting, and ten times smaller than US. I said, when was the last time US fought against a nation of a comparable size.
    When was the last time a big nation fought against a nation of a comparable size. WW III much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite View Post
    What you said is true, if only Germans didnt fight both sides. If they didn't , they could have won against Russia without a doubt.
    No, i don't think. There are modern authors who have made studies according to which exactly when the Germans were the best of their forces, the war was already lost because of the numbers. The whole of Europe, which was practically under the Germans, produced less than Soviet Union.
    The Germans tried in three directions. They failed against Leningrad, Mosca and in the end against Stalingrad. For all was clear that the Germans were at their limits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laberia View Post
    No, i don't think. There are modern authors who have made studies according to which exactly when the Germans were the best of their forces, the war was already lost because of the numbers. The whole of Europe, which was practically under the Germans, produced less than Soviet Union.
    The Germans tried in three directions. They failed against Leningrad, Mosca and in the end against Stalingrad. For all was clear that the Germans were at their limits.
    Then im wrong. 3.000.000 people fough on the german side right. And they managed to kill 20.000.000 soviets. I think thats some kind of win here. If it was for example French presidents controlling soviets, they could have surrender more early

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite View Post
    When was the last time a big nation fought against a nation of a comparable size. WW III much?
    Germany, France, Britain, Italy, Russia, Turkey are nations of comparable size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sokoli View Post
    Germany, France, Britain, Italy, Russia, Turkey are nations of comparable size.
    When was the last time they fought each other

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite View Post
    Then im wrong. 3.000.000 people fough on the german side right. And they managed to kill 20.000.000 soviets. I think thats some kind of win here. If it was for example French presidents controlling soviets, they could have surrender more early
    I remember that the number of soviets killed was 27.000.000. But they have other people to use as canonn fodder. And this is exactly what we are discussing in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laberia View Post
    I remember that the number of soviets killed was 27.000.000. But they have other people to use as canonn fodder. And this is exactly what we are discussing in this thread.
    There is a thery about why Russian girls are so beautiful. After so many man died, rest of them was able to marry beautiful women. So the next generation became very beautiful or handsome.

    One other theory is about cold weather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite View Post
    When was the last time they fought each other
    WW2. But unlike them, that since WW2 have been in a state of peace, US has been all along in a perpetual state of war, with small nations. Russia, that is less than half of US size, still, is considered an opponent strong enough that only in a cold war can be challenged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sokoli View Post
    WW2. But unlike them, that since WW2 have been in a state of peace, US has been all along in a perpetual state of war, with small nations. Russia, that is less than half of US size, still, is considered an opponent strong enough that only in a cold war can be challenged.
    Not with small nation, but with Soviet Union.

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