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    Quote Originally Posted by Sokoli View Post
    Um, North Korea is twice as small as South Korea, that US was protecting, and ten times smaller than US. I said, when was the last time US fought against a nation of a comparable size.
    What?
    In korean war chineese send like a millions of soldiers....

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    This George Orwell quote captures the US approach to war.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sokoli View Post
    This George Orwell quote captures the US approach to war.

    And?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jehan View Post
    What?
    In korean war chineese send like a millions of soldiers....
    So you're saying that US fought against China. Okay, but that could mean that China is not as motivated and prepared as US to fight remote wars.

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    The world has always been continuously in war. The period of peace has been called Pax Romana, Pax Ottoman, etc. But this are only short periods compared with the whole history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jehan View Post
    In the case of russians, they outnumber the ennemies, suffers far more death and win at the end because they have the human capacity to send some fresh troops again. Until the ennemies crack down.
    That was french tactic in Crimean War, dear
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laberia View Post
    I think Bezprym explained very well.
    For example, Germans during the WWII were much more advanced but Russians had the numbers. The WWII was maybe the last war where the quantity won against quality. With the invention of the nuke, the war is totally a different thing.
    That's a myth, technologically both countries were almost on pair, the difference of the first years of war was that Germany was already prepared for it. Once USSR turn their economy/production to War, they produced superior tanks and artillery.

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite View Post
    What you said is true, if only Germans didnt fight both sides. If they didn't , they could have won against Russia without a doubt.
    They wouldn't, even if they conquered Moscow or Leningrad it would change nothing, they would face a massive resistance and brutal guerrilla warfare, it is unsustainable to conquer and control Russia for a long period. Hitler was a fucking lunatic who didn't have a clue of what was expecting them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite View Post
    Then im wrong. 3.000.000 people fough on the german side right. And they managed to kill 20.000.000 soviets. I think thats some kind of win here. If it was for example French presidents controlling soviets, they could have surrender more early
    That's beause they were exterminating civilians en masse. And it was much more than 3 Million German soldiers involved in the Russian campaign, 3 million were mobilized for launching operation Barbarosa alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glass View Post
    That was french tactic in Crimean War, dear

    It might be possible frenchs (and allies) outnumber russians in some operations but not really for the general number of soldiers during the war. The numbers are always different but I never see a really big difference between the two opponent strenght.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jehan View Post
    It might be possible frenchs (and allies) outnumber russians in some operations but not really for the general number of soldiers during the war. The numbers are always different but I never see a really big difference between the two opponent strenght.
    You described french tactic in previous post pretty well. Feel free to look
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_...54%E2%80%9355)
    You see 128k deaths? Russian casualties are not specified to make allies look better i assume. Since russians supposed to lose at least 5 times more than french or english. But i can tell you that russian side suffered 40k deaths.
    As you can see nonstop throwing men onto russians forces gave you victory. Allies were outnumbering russian forces 3 to 1, lost 3 times more men as well, despite technological superiority since russian army still had equips from Napoleon wars era
    So before you judge russian war history you better look at that of your own country. And all those billions russian soldiers you keep mentioned will not change much, they were not participating in Crimean War, but were holding ground against other countries possibly attacking Russia or exist only in imagination of modern pseudohistorians inventing absurd russian numbers and casualties.
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