Horrors Inside US & UK prisons - Stabbings, Murders, Rapes, Suicides

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Maybe it works in Norway.

Doubt it'd work here.

I've already bought a ticket to Oslo so I can go hold up liquor stores with a sawed off shotgun. If I get caught, no worries... I'm certain Norway's prisons have internet access.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

I think that's what people forget. Norway and the United States have extremely different populations.

It doesn't matter. It's a slap across the face of someone who had a family member murdered.

[Profileid]

It doesn't matter. It's a slap across the face of someone who had a family member murdered.

Agree.
"But vengeance is so primitive man"
"It's not about punishment"

The idea that you can even get less than life after intentionally murdering someone is just fucking insane.

[zhaoyun]

It doesn't matter. It's a slap across the face of someone who had a family member murdered.

Do they give murderers that treatment though? If so, thats fucked up beyond measure

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Agree.
"But vengeance is so primitive man"
"It's not about punishment"

The idea that you can even get less than life after intentionally murdering someone is just fucking insane.

Well, if you think about it, when the person gets out you can do it yourself and the worst that can happen if you get caught is you're living decently in a prison that is like an old folks home but without the old folks at worst.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Do they give murderers that treatment though? If so, thats fucked up beyond measure

They do. That faggy Vars guy from that crappy Black metal music genre lived like that after being convicted of murder. I watched a documentary of him in prison and I was in shock. What you showed in that link isn't new information to me.

[Profileid]

Do they give murderers that treatment though? If so, thats fucked up beyond measure

They do. That faggy Vars guy from that crappy Black metal music genre lived like that after being convicted of murder. I watched a documentary of him in prison and I was in shock. What you showed in that link isn't new information to me.

The killer of 69 Norweigians,Anders Behring Breivik, is treated quite well. In any sane country,he would have been executed by now.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/10/wo...ut-prison.html

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

The killer of 69 Norweigians,Anders Behring Breivik, is treated quite well. In any sane country,he would have been executed by now.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/10/wo...ut-prison.html

I have to point out cuz i just thought of it and it's important: the purpose of prison isn't to deter people from committing a crime. No one thinks they'll ever get caught and so tough, austere prison conditions isn't going to stop anyone but it eases society's blood lust to know the murderer is living a shitty existence. I'm not fond of the death penalty not because I value the murderer's life but because we can't assume there is a hell or whatever where people are punished for their actions. What if the worst that occurs is simply non-existence? Let them live so they can have a harsh and miserable existence until nature takes its course.

[Profileid]

I have to point out cuz i just thought of it and it's important: the purpose of prison isn't to deter people from committing a crime. No one thinks they'll ever get caught and so tough, austere prison conditions isn't going to stop anyone but it eases society's blood lust to know the murderer is living a shitty existence. I'm not fond of the death penalty not because I value the murderer's life but because we can't assume there is a hell or whatever where people are punished for their actions. What if the worst that occurs is simply non-existence? Let them live so they can have a harsh and miserable existence until nature takes its course.

Meh. That's far too philosophical. Executing them is not so bad. We should not support their existence.
But I don't see why we don't at least put most of the prison population to work.

[♥ Lily ♥]

Alcatraz - one of the most top-security prisons located on an island near San Francisco. The prison is supposed to be escape-proof, but some inmates have managed to escape from Alcatraz, but then struggled to survive in the cold sea and rough tides around the island prison.