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    Default Greek resistance against the Ottoman invasion.

    The purpose of this thread is to discuss about the invasion of Greece from Ottoman Empire and to an possibile resistance of greek people against this invasion. In Wikipedia, the only information avaliabile is this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Greece#Expansion
    Expansion[edit]
    After the fall of Constantinople to the Ottomans in 1453, the Despotate of the Morea was the last remnant of the Byzantine Empire to hold out against the Ottomans. However, this, too, fell to the Ottomans in 1460, completing the Ottoman conquest of mainland Greece.[8]
    While most of mainland Greece and the Aegean islands was under Ottoman control by the end of the 15th century, Cyprus and Crete remained Venetian territory and did not fall to the Ottomans until 1571 and 1670 respectively. The only part of the Greek-speaking world that escaped Ottoman rule was the Ionian Islands, which remained Venetian until 1797. Corfu withstood three major sieges in 1537, 1571 and 1716 all of which resulted in the repulsion of the Ottomans.
    Other areas that remained part of the Venetian Stato da Mŕr include Nafplio and Monemvasia until 1540, the Duchy of the Archipelago, centered on the islands of Naxos and Paros until 1579, Sifnos until 1617 and Tinos until 1715.

    So, according to Wikipedia, there was no a greek resistance against the invasion of Greece from the Ottomans.
    I hope that there will be there someone(greek or nongreek member) who have some historical knowledge about this period of greek history.
    I want to make clear two things:
    First, my interest is only about the period of time corresponding the invasion of Greece from Ottoman Empire. About the Greece under Ottomans and the liberation of Greece from Ottomans, we can discuss in two other separated threads that i intend to open in the future.
    Second, pls no troll.

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    Greeks in various places of the Greek peninsula would at times rise up against Ottoman rule, mainly while taking advantage of wars the Ottoman Empire would engage into. Those uprisings were of mixed scale and impact. During the Ottoman–Venetian War (1463–1479), the Maniot Kladas brothers, Krokodelos and Epifani, were leading bands of stratioti on behalf of Venice against the Turks in Southern Peloponnese. They put Vardounia and their lands into Venetian possession, for which Epifani then acted as governor.

    Local, quickly-crushed revolts such as the Epirus peasant revolts of 1600 and 1611 would occur throughout the peninsula.

    In 1571, the Christian fleet in the Battle of Lepanto included a dozen of ships with Greek captains and crew from Crete and the Ionian islands, one of them manned with funds of El Greco. The success of the battle by the Holy League triggered uprisings in places of the peninsula such as Phocis (recorded in the Chronicle of Galaxeidi) and the Peloponnese, led by the Melissinos brothers and others. All of these revolts were crushed by the following year. During the Cretan War (1645–1669), the Maniots would aid Francesco Morosini and the Venetians in the Peloponnese. Greek irregulars also aided the Venetians through the Morean War in their operations on the Ionian Sea and Peloponnese.

    A major uprising during that period was the Orlov Revolt (Greek: Ορλωφικά) which took place during the Russo-Turkish War (1768–1774) and triggered armed unrest in both the Greek mainland and the islands. In 1778, a Greek fleet of seventy vessels assembled by Lambros Katsonis which harassed the Turkish squadrons in the Aegean sea, captured the island of Kastelorizo and engaged the Turkish fleet in naval battles until 1790.


    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoma...gs_before_1821

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    Quote Originally Posted by IberoHellenic View Post
    Greeks in various places of the Greek peninsula would at times rise up against Ottoman rule, mainly while taking advantage of wars the Ottoman Empire would engage into. Those uprisings were of mixed scale and impact. During the Ottoman–Venetian War (1463–1479), the Maniot Kladas brothers, Krokodelos and Epifani, were leading bands of stratioti on behalf of Venice against the Turks in Southern Peloponnese. They put Vardounia and their lands into Venetian possession, for which Epifani then acted as governor.
    Can you elaborate better this wars of greeks in various part of peninsula?
    Kladas were Albanians from Himara. Search in your sources. Appart the Albanians who were settled in Peloponneso from a long time, Venetians brought other Albanians from Albania in their Ottoman-Venetian wars. Venetians used Albanians not only in Peloponneso but from North Adriatic until Crete and Cyprus.
    This are the famous stradiotis. I am asking for Greek resistance, not Albanian wars.

    Quote Originally Posted by IberoHellenic View Post
    Local, quickly-crushed revolts such as the Epirus peasant revolts of 1600 and 1611 would occur throughout the peninsula.

    In 1571, the Christian fleet in the Battle of Lepanto included a dozen of ships with Greek captains and crew from Crete and the Ionian islands, one of them manned with funds of El Greco. The success of the battle by the Holy League triggered uprisings in places of the peninsula such as Phocis (recorded in the Chronicle of Galaxeidi) and the Peloponnese, led by the Melissinos brothers and others. All of these revolts were crushed by the following year. During the Cretan War (1645–1669), the Maniots would aid Francesco Morosini and the Venetians in the Peloponnese. Greek irregulars also aided the Venetians through the Morean War in their operations on the Ionian Sea and Peloponnese.

    A major uprising during that period was the Orlov Revolt (Greek: Ορλωφικά) which took place during the Russo-Turkish War (1768–1774) and triggered armed unrest in both the Greek mainland and the islands. In 1778, a Greek fleet of seventy vessels assembled by Lambros Katsonis which harassed the Turkish squadrons in the Aegean sea, captured the island of Kastelorizo and engaged the Turkish fleet in naval battles until 1790.


    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoma...gs_before_1821
    This is in accurate, also is not part of our discussion. I want to repeat. I am interested about the Greek resistance during the invasion of Greece. About Greece under Ottoman occupation and the liberation of Greece by the Ottomans, we can discuss in separate threads.

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    Oh, glorious Albania.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IberoHellenic View Post
    Oh, glorious Albania.
    We are speaking about Greece not Albania. Pls, stay on topic. About Kladas i will post in the evening from Greek source.

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    Guys, when i asked no troll, i was not referring to the greeks. What's the problem? You are trolling with your history?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laberia View Post
    Guys, when i asked no troll, i was not referring to the greeks. What's the problem? You are trolling with your history?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IberoHellenic View Post
    Oh, glorious Albania.
    Quote Originally Posted by Laberia View Post
    We are speaking about Greece not Albania. Pls, stay on topic. About Kladas i will post in the evening from Greek source.
    http://www.mani.org.gr/istor/klad2/kladas_arthro.htm

    Ο Κροκόδειλος (Κορκόδειλος-Κορκόντηλος-Ακροκόνδυλος) Κλαδάς (1425-1490) καταγόταν από τη Χιμάρα της Β. Ηπείρου και ήταν αλβανικής καταγωγής. Ο πατέρας του Θεόδωρος μετανάστευσε μαζί με άλλους Αλβανούς στην Πελοπόννησο όπου βρέθηκε στην υπηρεσία των Παλαιολόγων. Για τις υπηρεσίες του άλλωστε αυτές τού παραχωρήθηκαν εκτάσεις στην Μπαρδούνια της Μάνης όπου διατηρήθηκε το αρβανίτικο στοιχείο τουλάχιστον ως το 1821.

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    The Crocodile (Korkodeilos-Korkontilos-Akrokondylos) Kladas (1425-1490) came from Himara B. Epirus and was Albanian. His father Theodore emigrated along with other Albanians in the Peloponnese where found Paleologos service. For his services besides those granted him land in Bardounia Mani which maintained the Arvanitiko element at least to 1821.

    Bibliography
    - History of the Greek Nation (Athens Publishing), Vol. I "(1974), p. 276-279.
    - Dist. E. Vakalopoulos, History of Modern Hellenism, vol. III (1968), p. 50-53.
    - K. Sathas, Turkish-occupied Greece, Athens 1869, p. 37-38.
    - K. Sathas, Greek jokes, vol. 1, Athens 1867.
    - K. Sathas, Greek soldiers in the set and regeneration of Greek tactics, Athens 1885.
    The newspaper TA NEA (11-08-2000)

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