Countries that can compete with the West

[Fractal]

India cannot compete with the west as a nation, but Indians can compete with westerners when they are living in the west, that I can 150% guarantee you.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Etain speaks very honorably.

[Bezprym]

By the way, what is considered "West" here?

[zhaoyun]

It has military and industrial power,but that is only one aspect of it. I'm talking about cultural influence and what companies from that country are actually able to produce.

Does China have any home developed car brands that have the market penetration of Honda,Mistubishi,Toyota or Mazda? People associate Japanese products with quality.
While Japan isn't in the state it was in the 1980s, it's still nothing to scoff at.

Based on socio-economic development, China is still far behind Japan and the West. So if you're just talking about per capita living standards, then I agree that Japan, S. Korea, Singapore, HK, Macau, Taiwan are probably the only industrialized states/regions which are comparable to the West.

But China is developing very fast and it is building these brands today. The situation's already very different from just two years ago. Huawei is the world's third largest smartphone company and Chinese brands dominate the top 10. DJI, is the world leader in drones. BGI Genomics is a world leader in it's field. BYD is the world's largest electric vehicle manufacturer and backed by Warren Buffet, although the auto industry is really the major industry where Japan is still ahead of China, China's government is quickly building the infrastructure for electric vehicles as they plan to use the development of EV's to leapfrog the traditional automakers.

Haier is the largest, if not, the largest white goods manufacturer in the world. Lenovo is one of the largest computer brands.

Basically in a ton of fields, China has already surpassed or is catching up to Japan. The reason why many of these brands are not well known in the US yet is because China's domestic market is so large, they haven't felt as dire a need to expand overseas as the Japanese and Koreans did at similar levels of development, because their domestic markets were much smaller. But they are starting to expand rapidly and will likely be household names in the US in the next ten years.

Japan has no internet giants to compare with Alibaba, Baidu and Tencent (which is starting to dominate online gaming)

So in conclusion, yes, I agree that as far as socio-economic development, Japan is at the level or higher than most Western countries and China is still quite behind. But this situation will be changing dramatically in the next 20 years.

[Profileid]

India and Bollywood industry then

I actually didn't consider that. Bollywood is only vaguely familiar to most Americans,but it's not a bad example.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

India cannot compete with the west as a nation, but Indians can compete with westerners living in the west, that I can 150% guarantee you.

omg shut up. Because you I don't buy anything from stores owned by Indians.

[Profileid]

Based on socio-economic development, China is still far behind Japan and the West. So if you're just talking about per capita living standards, then I agree that Japan, S. Korea, Singapore, HK, Macau, Taiwan are probably the only industrialized states/regions which are comparable to the West.

But China is developing very fast and it is building these brands today. The situation's already very different from just two years ago. Huawei is the world's third largest smartphone company and Chinese brands dominate the top 10. DJI, is the world leader in drones. BGI Genomics is a world leader in it's field. BYD is the world's largest electric vehicle manufacturer and backed by Warren Buffet, although the auto industry is really the major industry where Japan is still ahead of China, China's government is quickly building the infrastructure for electric vehicles as they plan to use the development of EV's to leapfrog the traditional automakers.

Haier is the largest, if not, the largest white goods manufacturer in the world. Lenovo is one of the largest computer brands.

Basically in a ton of fields, China has already surpassed or is catching up to Japan. The reason why many of these brands are not well known in the US yet is because China's domestic market is so large, they haven't felt as dire a need to expand overseas as the Japanese and Koreans did at similar levels of development, because their domestic markets were much smaller. But they are starting to expand rapidly and will likely be household names in the US in the next ten years.

So in conclusion, yes, I agree that as far as socio-economic development, Japan is at the level or higher than most Western countries and China is still quite behind. But this situation will be changing dramatically in the next 20 years.

Lenovo is a good example. The two more visible Chinese companies I can think of right now are Huawei and Ali Baba. I would wager there will be more cultural visibility with China in the coming decades. It would be interesting to see American teenagers trying to teach themselves Chinese.

[Profileid]

By the way, what is considered "West" here?

Europe and the Anglo countries

[Kamal900]

I place my bet on China. The Japanese are way too busy watching anime and other shit than caring competing with the western world. China and Russia are the only countries that have the potential in becoming world super power after America falls down to sunder.

[Bezprym]

Europe and the Anglo countries

Then East can compete.