What are the standards for being considered "white" in a Spanish stadium?

[Padanian]

Considering Spaniards are not very known for being the "whitest" people from Europe, what do Spaniards take into account before deciding to shout "monkey" towards an opponent during a match?

This time, this Argentinian was their "victim": Marcos Acuna.



A light-skinned guy, he looks around castizo range, and has mixed traits (European and Amerindian). No african shown on his phenotype (neither in color nor in traits/features), lighter than a lot of native Spaniards I've already seen when it comes to pigmentation...

Of course he doesn't pass as a native European because of his facial traits, but the guy isn't dark at all. The criteria used for commiting racism used to be harsher in the past, like with Vini Jr for example.

So, I come here to ask you, Spaniard members of this forum: what do you consider the "borderline" phenotype for your people to commit racism over players playing for the opposite team?

[Abaddon]

This case proves that's not just about racism, but also xenophobia specifically against latin-americans.

Either way, spaniards doesnt seem worse than italians in this aspect.

[Gallop]

The Spaniard have the right averages for Europe.

So much nonsense to demand albinism to the Spaniard when you see in all the networks the people of European countries and they are the same averages that are in Spain, tanned included.

I am not going to deal with an issue by adopting the American way of thinking in order to develop an issue from a foreign point of view and also from another continent, who is white and who is not, in order to decipher what the racist insults in Spanish soccer stadiums are about. It would be Europeans dealing with a European issue through an American prism, so who understands us?

Sit on Biden's lap and let him accept you as a pet.

[Septentrion]

Considering Spaniards are not very known for being the "whitest" people from Europe, what do Spaniards take into account before deciding to shout "monkey" towards an opponent during a match?

This time, this Argentinian was their "victim": Marcos Acuna.



A light-skinned guy, he looks around castizo range, and has mixed traits (European and Amerindian). No african shown on his phenotype (neither in color nor in traits/features), lighter than a lot of native Spaniards I've already seen when it comes to pigmentation...

Of course he doesn't pass as a native European because of his facial traits, but the guy isn't dark at all. The criteria used for commiting racism used to be harsher in the past, like with Vini Jr for example.

So, I come here to ask you, Spaniard members of this forum: what do you consider the "borderline" phenotype for your people to commit racism over players playing for the opposite team?

This guy has clearly Iberian and Indigenous American with possiby distant Negroid traits. His complexion of a Southern European hue (in my humble opinion). Now let’s not put all the reasons why the Spaniards were picking on him was because of his looks or origins or racism. There could be other reasons as well. Spain isn’t the most racist nation in Europe. Maybe it’s in fashion to shout «*monkey*» at a player they don’t like. The average Spaniard you’ll meet isn’t more racist than I am.
I don’t consider myself a racist.

[Gallop]

Experts in Spain are coming out. These issues are private to Spain and I certainly will not reveal the extent or what they are.

[Padanian]

Either way, spaniards doesnt seem worse than italians in this aspect.

I know. But we, at least, don't shout "monkey" to almost white-looking people (in this special case, to an obvious castizo footballer). It makes no sense in calling people of neither non-african heritage nor non-aboriginal-australian heritage "monkeys".



Would you Spaniards call this guy "monkey" just because he is from Venezuela?

[Padanian]

The Spaniard have the right averages for Europe.

So much nonsense to demand albinism to the Spaniard when you see in all the networks the people of European countries and they are the same averages that are in Spain, tanned included.

I am not going to deal with an issue by adopting the American way of thinking in order to develop an issue from a foreign point of view and also from another continent, who is white and who is not, in order to decipher what the racist insults in Spanish soccer stadiums are about. It would be Europeans dealing with a European issue through an American prism, so who understands us?

Sit on Biden's lap and let him accept you as a pet.

What the fuck "An American prism"? Have you seen my flag?

[Abaddon]

I know.

Said enough.

[Padanian]

Said enough.

Why would I deny we are a very racist country? But you won't see in the stadiums, people with the phenotype of Marcos Acuna being shout at "monkey". It would happen more often to SSA-like phenotypes, as it happened recently with Milan's goalkeeper Mike Maignan, of almost 100% SSA/Caribbean descent. There would be no chance for someone like Marcos Acuna to suffer from racism here because of his phenotype.

[Aryan Aries]

The most "racist" people are usually those who secretly hate themselves for falling short of their own ideal. So Spaniards, who themselves are quite dark compared to for example Germans or Russians, hate on those who are even darker than them. In the end it's all self-hate that gets projected onto other people.