Paleo-Atlantid examples

[The Blade]

Shania Twain:

[Efauyo Arias]

Devon Larratt (with some Dinarid on his nose), Canadian professional armwrestler:












Keira Knightley (however, her nose is narrower than that of a standard Paleo Atlantid):










And...

[Efauyo Arias]

[xripkan]

Which is the difference between a Paleo-Atlantid and a Faelid type except the pigmentation?

[Mr.G]

Which is the difference between a Paleo-Atlantid and a Faelid type except the pigmentation?

I believe Paleo-Atlantid is CM + Atlanto-Med. Faelid is a CM type only. I could be mistaken.

[The Blade]

Which is the difference between a Paleo-Atlantid and a Faelid type except the pigmentation?

1) Faelids have a broader hair colour spectrum from golden blond to dark brown with redheads being also presented, Paleo Atlantids are exclusively brown to dark and black-haired
2) Faelids are typically blue or gray-eyed, Paleo Atlantids can have other eye colours, including brown
3) Faelid hair texture is exclusively straight, Paleo Atlantids can have straight, wavy or sometimes curly hair
4) Paleo Atlantids sometimes have fuller lips than Faelids
5) Squareness in Paleo Atlantids is sometimes decreased and they not rarely have higher foreheads than Faelids
6) Paleo Atlantids can be quite tanned, unlike Faelids
These things lead to the conclusion of Atlanto-Mediterranean admixture in Paleo Atlantids, while Faelid is a proper Cro-Magnon type.

[xripkan]

1) Faelids have a broader hair colour spectrum from golden blond to dark brown with redheads being also presented, Paleo Atlantids are exclusively brown to dark and black-haired
2) Faelids are typically blue or gray-eyed, Paleo Atlantids can have other eye colours, including brown
3) Faelid hair texture is exclusively straight, Paleo Atlantids can have straight, wavy or sometimes curly hair
4) Paleo Atlantids sometimes have fuller lips than Faelids
5) Squareness in Paleo Atlantids is sometimes decreased and they not rarely have higher foreheads than Faelids
6) Paleo Atlantids can be quite tanned, unlike Faelids
These things lead to the conclusion of Atlanto-Mediterranean admixture in Paleo Atlantids, while Faelid is a proper Cro-Magnon type.

So what Mr G wrote is correct? Paleo-Atlatid=Atlanto-Med+ some specific CM characteristics? Furthermore Faelid is considered a Nordic type except Cro-Magnon?

[The Blade]

So what Mr G wrote is correct? Paleo-Atlatid=Atlanto-Med+ some specific CM characteristics? Furthermore Faelid is considered a Nordic type except Cro-Magnon?

Mr. G and I have the same idea of Paleo Atlantid as an Upper Paleolithic (Cro-Magnon) type that displays certain Mediterranean qualities but the main character is still Cro-Magnon.
However, there is nothing Nordid about Faelids proper, nor were they classified as a Nordic subtype by actual authors.

Fritz Paudler who coined the term and other pioneers, among whom Herman Lundborg, viewed it as a CM one.
The term Dalsrasse and generally the -dal part in Dalofaelid and Dalofalisch derive from the Swedish region of Dalarna where according to Paudler the type was quite numerous (and he first observed it there). Hans Günther saw it as common in Westphalia, Germany, and from there the Phalian, Faelid and Falisch terms. However, none of them saw it as a Nordid variety/type of Nordic Aurignacid origin (not even German nordicists mentioned such thing). The fact that many of these light Upper Paleolithic survivors later mixed with various Indo-europeans, among which Nordic types especially prominently, doesn't change that many still display solely CM character of proper Dalofaelid type.
Faelid as an originally Nordid variety is a later product of anthrotardism and nordicism combined on the net.

[xripkan]

Mr. G and I have the same idea of Paleo Atlantid as an Upper Paleolithic (Cro-Magnon) type that displays certain Mediterranean qualities but the main character is still Cro-Magnon.
However, there is nothing Nordid about Faelids proper, nor were they classified as a Nordic subtype by actual authors.

Fritz Paudler who coined the term and other pioneers, among whom Herman Lundborg, viewed it as a CM one.
The term Dalsrasse and generally the -dal part in Dalofaelid and Dalofalisch derive from the Swedish region of Dalarna where according to Paudler the type was quite numerous (and he first observed it there). Hans Günther saw it as common in Westphalia, Germany, and from there the Phalian, Faelid and Falisch terms. However, none of them saw it as a Nordid variety/type of Nordic Aurignacid origin (not even German nordicists mentioned such thing). The fact that many of these light Upper Paleolithic survivors later mixed with various Indo-europeans, among which Nordic types especially prominently, doesn't change that many still display solely CM character of proper Dalofaelid type.
Faelid as an originally Nordid variety is a later product of anthrotardism and nordicism combined on the net.

Interesting! So this classification of phenotypes at this link is not correct.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Qz8n-vy__...2BEuropean.jpg
The fair/light characteristics are not always result of a Nordid blend, right?

[The Blade]

Interesting! So this classification of phenotypes at this link is not correct.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Qz8n-vy__...2BEuropean.jpg
The fair/light characteristics are not always result of a Nordid blend, right?

No, they were present in Europe before R1a and R1b people arrived:
"In terms of phenotypes, Wilde et al. (2014) and Haak et al. (2015) found that the intrusive Yamna population, generally inferred to be the first speakers of an Indo-European language in the Corded Ware culture zone, were overwhelmingly dark-eyed (brown), dark-haired and had a skin colour that was moderately light, though somewhat darker than that of the average modern European. These studies also showed that light pigmentation traits had already existed in pre-Indo-European Neolithic Europeans (in both farmers and hunter-gatherers), so long-standing philological attempts to correlate them with the arrival of Indo-Europeans from the steppes were misguided."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corded_Ware_culture