Etymology of the word Pelasgian

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And the barbarian language was similar to Sumerian.

There are similarities between Sumerian and Greek, which suggests extensive Greek colonisation of Syria-Palestine and
Mesopotamia before the emergence of the Sumerians. The name of Palestine alone indictes that was a European land.

Sumerian civilization starts at 3.500 bc. but the Greek some thousands of years before. Archeological finds in Macedonia of 5250 bc, and the island of Yaros proved the existence of alphabet there which is almost 2000 years older than this of the Sumerian, as well as they have prove that symbols found in Sumerian objects were existed on Greek objects at least 2000 years earlier.

The oldest script in the world has been found not in Northern Greece, not Mesopotamia.



The Dispilio Tablet - the oldest known written text
http://www.ancient-origins.net/ancie...ten-text-00913

The meanders, crosses, swastikas, found in Lerna, Sesklo, Diminio (5th millenium)
are older than this which were found in the Sumerian city Samara in Mesopotamia.
(3rd millenium). There was also found double axes which have their origin in Crete.

The archaeologist Fr.Schachermeyer says that the pottery of Lerna, Sesko, And Diminio (Greece) which belong at the 5th and the 4th millenium bc, is closely related to this of Mesopotamia which is of after 3.500 bc. Something anybody can note just looking at the objects.

But first of all the Sumerians them selves said that they came in Mesopotamia through the sea and the most important researcher of the Sumerian civilization
 S.N.Kramer confirms the Mediterranean origin of the Sumerians in his book "History begins at Sumer" where he points out that "the skulls of the Sumerian tombs shows a commixture among the Armenian race and the Mediterranean race, where the second (Mediterranean race) predominates"

Carleton Coon in his book "The races of Europe" (1939) claims that there was a massive emigration of Mediterranean people to Asia at about the 7th millenium BC. These people arrived in northern and southern Mesopotamia and comprised the pre-Sumerian, Elamitic people of Mesopotamia. The prehistoric Greeks had the ability to travel through the sea and settled in Mesopotamia.

The finds in Xoirokitia Cyprus and the others in Ugarit(Ras Shamra) in Syria shows that people from Greece had come to the Middle East already from the 6th millenium bc.

All of Mesopotamia had no inhabitants due to the claciers until 14.000 it was impossible for people from other places except the Aegean to settled there. The archeological exhibits in Greece (at Frachthi and at the island of Giaros) shows that Greeks were traveled with sailboats and ships already from the 11.000 bc.
See at T.Jacobsen's "17.000 years of Greek Prehistory"
http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...ek-prehistory/

By those finds has become clear that Sumerians isn't the first civilization of the world. The fact that European languages have more cognates than Mesopotamian ones and Greek has
 the most, is another giveaway. The Gods of the Sumerians all have names which can be resolved in Greek.

Sumerian Gods. Greek version
Enlil ---- Elanios (Zeus)
Ninki (wife of Enlil) ---- Niki =victory
Ea (God of earth) ---- Gea = earth

The Sumerian God of waters was Kamilos (a known name of Hermes in Greece)
Ea was the Sumerian God of earth and the name comes from the Greek
name Gea - Gaia ("e" and "ai" sound the same in Greek) and it means earth.

The Sumerian Gods such as Tammuz and Shamash (from which the name Shem derives) were all of Greco-Phoenician origin.

Tammuz derives from a word knowm in Akkadian and Sumerian which originates
from an INDO-EUROPEAN root - POTAMOS meaning River (in Greek) since the Tammuz cult
originated from the annual flooding and drying-up cycle of the Euphrates.

The name was so common the virtually every river in Europe was named Tammuz
from the Daube (Eri-Danu to Thames is named after Tammuz as is the Danube, ie. EriDanus and the Rhone/Rhine or RoDanus. The very name Thomas is derived from the name Tammuz.

Tom = Thomas = Tammuz.

It has been proven by the archaeological finds the linguistic and anthropological studies the Sumerians and the Helamitic people of Mesopotamia were of Greek origin and they went in Mesopotamia coming from the Aegean. The finds at Limnaion, Frachthi, Sesklo, Diminio, and Yaros has prove that decidedly.

There's much of similarity in mythology, religion, pottery (and it is proven that the Greek pottery is 2000 years older than this of Sumerians) and also symbols, language, and origin since it's also proven that the source of Sumerians was Greece.

THE AEGEAN PROVENANCE OF THE SUMERIAN AND THE HELAMITIC PEOPLE OF MESOPOTAMIA

In many of the history books is alleged that the source of the civilization was the surrounded by the rivers Tigris and Euphrates area of Mesopotamia.


They claim that in this area the writing was founded and there came to the light the oldest civilization of the world the Sumerian civilization. However this theory has to face some new datums since the new archeological finds indicates the Aegean as the source of the civilization and the Aegean provenance of the major popular element
of the Mesopotamian people.

The Sumerian language is influenced massively with Grecopelasgic words and ditto the religion and the mythology of the Sumerians. Therefore the roots of the Sumerian and Helamitic civilization is in Greece and not the opposite. The Sumerian cities were discovered and excavated at 1843-46 (Ninevi) at 1854 (Taylor) and at 1925 Leonard Wooley discovered Ur the most important Sumerian city. The only real agreement among the historians is that Sumerians came to Mesopotamia at 3.500 bc.

All of Mesopotamia had no inhabitants due to the claciers until 14.000 it was impossible for people from other places except the Aegean to settled there. The archeological exhibits in Greece shows that Greeks were traveled with sailboats and ships already from the 11.000 BC.

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There are similarities between Sumerian and Greek, which suggests extensive Greek colonisation of Syria-Palestine and
Mesopotamia before the emergence of the Sumerians. The name of Palestine alone indictes that was a European land.

Sumerian civilization starts at 3.500 bc. but the Greek some thousands of years before. Archeological finds in Macedonia of 5250 bc, and the island of Yaros proved the existence of alphabet there which is almost 2000 years older than this of the Sumerian, as well as they have prove that symbols found in Sumerian objects were existed on Greek objects at least 2000 years earlier.

The oldest script in the world has been found not in Northern Greece, not Mesopotamia.



The Dispilio Tablet - the oldest known written text
http://www.ancient-origins.net/ancie...ten-text-00913

The meanders, crosses, swastikas, found in Lerna, Sesklo, Diminio (5th millenium)
are older than this which were found in the Sumerian city Samara in Mesopotamia.
(3rd millenium). There was also found double axes which have their origin in Crete.

The archaeologist Fr.Schachermeyer says that the pottery of Lerna, Sesko, And Diminio (Greece) which belong at the 5th and the 4th millenium bc, is closely related to this of Mesopotamia which is of after 3.500 bc. Something anybody can note just looking at the objects.

But first of all the Sumerians them selves said that they came in Mesopotamia through the sea and the most important researcher of the Sumerian civilization
 S.N.Kramer confirms the Mediterranean origin of the Sumerians in his book "History begins at Sumer" where he points out that "the skulls of the Sumerian tombs shows a commixture among the Armenian race and the Mediterranean race, where the second (Mediterranean race) predominates"

Carleton Coon in his book "The races of Europe" (1939) claims that there was a massive emigration of Mediterranean people to Asia at about the 7th millenium BC. These people arrived in northern and southern Mesopotamia and comprised the pre-Sumerian, Elamitic people of Mesopotamia. The prehistoric Greeks had the ability to travel through the sea and settled in Mesopotamia.

The finds in Xoirokitia Cyprus and the others in Ugarit(Ras Shamra) in Syria shows that people from Greece had come to the Middle East already from the 6th millenium bc.

All of Mesopotamia had no inhabitants due to the claciers until 14.000 it was impossible for people from other places except the Aegean to settled there. The archeological exhibits in Greece (at Frachthi and at the island of Giaros) shows that Greeks were traveled with sailboats and ships already from the 11.000 bc.
See at T.Jacobsen's "17.000 years of Greek Prehistory"
http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...ek-prehistory/

By those finds has become clear that Sumerians isn't the first civilization of the world. The fact that European languages have more cognates than Mesopotamian ones and Greek has
 the most, is another giveaway. The Gods of the Sumerians all have names which can be resolved in Greek.

Sumerian Gods. Greek version
Enlil ---- Elanios (Zeus)
Ninki (wife of Enlil) ---- Niki =victory
Ea (God of earth) ---- Gea = earth

The Sumerian God of waters was Kamilos (a known name of Hermes in Greece)
Ea was the Sumerian God of earth and the name comes from the Greek
name Gea - Gaia ("e" and "ai" sound the same in Greek) and it means earth.

The Sumerian Gods such as Tammuz and Shamash (from which the name Shem derives) were all of Greco-Phoenician origin.

Tammuz derives from a word knowm in Akkadian and Sumerian which originates
from an INDO-EUROPEAN root - POTAMOS meaning River (in Greek) since the Tammuz cult
originated from the annual flooding and drying-up cycle of the Euphrates.

The name was so common the virtually every river in Europe was named Tammuz
from the Daube (Eri-Danu to Thames is named after Tammuz as is the Danube, ie. EriDanus and the Rhone/Rhine or RoDanus. The very name Thomas is derived from the name Tammuz.

Tom = Thomas = Tammuz.

It has been proven by the archaeological finds the linguistic and anthropological studies the Sumerians and the Helamitic people of Mesopotamia were of Greek origin and they went in Mesopotamia coming from the Aegean. The finds at Limnaion, Frachthi, Sesklo, Diminio, and Yaros has prove that decidedly.

There's much of similarity in mythology, religion, pottery (and it is proven that the Greek pottery is 2000 years older than this of Sumerians) and also symbols, language, and origin since it's also proven that the source of Sumerians was Greece.

THE AEGEAN PROVENANCE OF THE SUMERIAN AND THE HELAMITIC PEOPLE OF MESOPOTAMIA

In many of the history books is alleged that the source of the civilization was the surrounded by the rivers Tigris and Euphrates area of Mesopotamia.


They claim that in this area the writing was founded and there came to the light the oldest civilization of the world the Sumerian civilization. However this theory has to face some new datums since the new archeological finds indicates the Aegean as the source of the civilization and the Aegean provenance of the major popular element
of the Mesopotamian people.

The Sumerian language is influenced massively with Grecopelasgic words and ditto the religion and the mythology of the Sumerians. Therefore the roots of the Sumerian and Helamitic civilization is in Greece and not the opposite. The Sumerian cities were discovered and excavated at 1843-46 (Ninevi) at 1854 (Taylor) and at 1925 Leonard Wooley discovered Ur the most important Sumerian city. The only real agreement among the historians is that Sumerians came to Mesopotamia at 3.500 bc.

All of Mesopotamia had no inhabitants due to the claciers until 14.000 it was impossible for people from other places except the Aegean to settled there. The archeological exhibits in Greece shows that Greeks were traveled with sailboats and ships already from the 11.000 BC.

i need to be careful, b/c I felt I become mesmerized by your writing.
Sooner or later we will see who the Sumarian were by David Reich Team. They already started to find.
Which Hg do you think they had? I think they would be R1b or Q with elongated skull and armenoid nose.

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Nicolae Densusianu states: "Ancient historical traditions of the Greeks, Egyptians, Phoenicians and Assyrians, mentioned a vast empire of the Pelasgian race, which in its epoch of power and greatness had extended over a great part of Europe, Asia and Africa (De Jubainville, Les prem. habit. de l’Europe. I. 77),

Europe , Asia , Africa was the play ground of Pelasgians .

Kumuk is the only etymological trace that is left which is common to all these locations.

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i need to be careful, b/c I felt I become mesmerized by your writing.
Sooner or later we will see who the Sumarian were by David Reich Team. They already started to find.
Which Hg do you think they had? I think they would be R1b or Q with elongated skull and armenoid nose.

It was not the R1b or R1a that brought the Greek language to Greece. We know that R1b peaks in Basques and the Basque language is emphatically non-IE. The whole lineage of R1b spoke a Basque-like languange that was non-IE.

It was not R1a either since the Slavs were not originally Indo-European speaks but evolved in Asia and would have spoken and Altaic-Ugric language until they came into contact with Europeans in 200 AD. The Slavs who moved to the Ukraine derived their language from contact with the Germanic race, M170 which is why M170 is one of the main lineages in the population of Russia as well as M17.

So it has to be J2 + E-v13. We know this because this is a haplogroup also exists in Anatolia and we know that the oldest cities in the world are not found in Mesopotamia but in Anatolia.

The inhabitants of Greece prior to 200 BC (the time of the end of Greek colonisation of Sicily) were probably of 3 these DNA lineages. M35 from Egypt, M172 from Anatolia and M173 from Iberia.

The indications are that the Proto-Greeks came from 3 places in several
 Waves.

The first inhabitants of Greece came in about 30,000 BC from Anatolia via a
land bridge across the Bospherous and inhabited Macedonia. At this time most
of the Aegean sea was actually Land. They were M172 linage.

Were these city dwellers and framers mute. NO of course not. They had a
 language of their own and that language was GREEK.

It was not until 2200 BC that Iberian migrants came to southern Greece and
 since the Cretan Palace Civilisation was there since 3000 BC it is blatantly
 obvious that these migrants assimilated the language of the Cretan Palace
Civilisation which was GREEK.

All the terms used in farming, city building and kingship would have come
 from City Dwellers NOT nomads. How could a nomad who had never seen bread
 before have a word for bread. How could they have a word for vase when they
 made no vases. How could they have a word for cow when they had never
 domesticated a cow.

In 8000 BC the first farmers came to Greece and Cyprus from Palestine by Sea
 and they were of the M35 DNA lineage.

In 5000 BC a wave of migration of the M173 linage came to the Balkans from
 Iberia and mixed with the existing M172 linage.

In 3000 BC a wave of early-Pelasgians migrated south from the Balkans into
 Greece and the islands.

From 2200-1900 BC Greek speaking peoples migrated into Greece from the
 Balkans. At the same time Phrygian, Teukrian and Thracian Tribes entered
 northern Greece and each was respectively pushed further east by successive
 migrations.
In 1700 BC the proto-Mycenaean's conquered Crete and Argolis.
In 1500 BC the Achaeans occupied the Peloponnese in the regions of Sparta
 and Argolis.
In 1420 BC the Cretans conquered Mylittus in Asia-Minor.
In 1380 the Aeolians occupied the eastern Peloponnese around Elis. They also
 along with the Pelasgians also occupied Crete.
In 1300 BC the Ionians occupied the northern Peloponnese in Aigialea.
In 1130 BC A contingent of Thessalians migrated to Boeotia and the Aeolians
(these Thessalians) migrated to Asia-Minor.
In 1100 BC the Dorians occupied the entire Peloponnese and pushed the
 Achaeans into Aigialea thus forcing the Ionians into Attica.
In 1071 BC the Ionians migrated to Asia-Minor.

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It was not the R1b or R1a that brought the Greek language to Greece. We know that R1b peaks in Basques and the Basque language is emphatically non-IE. The whole lineage of R1b spoke a Basque-like languange that was non-IE.

It was not R1a either since the Slavs were not originally Indo-European speaks but evolved in Asia and would have spoken and Altaic-Ugric language until they came into contact with Europeans in 200 AD. The Slavs who moved to the Ukraine derived their language from contact with the Germanic race, M170 which is why M170 is one of the main lineages in the population of Russia as well as M17.

So it has to be J2 + E-v13. We know this because this is a haplogroup also exists in Anatolia and we know that the oldest cities in the world are not found in Mesopotamia but in Anatolia.

The inhabitants of Greece prior to 200 BC (the time of the end of Greek colonisation of Sicily) were probably of 3 these DNA lineages. M35 from Egypt, M172 from Anatolia and M173 from Iberia.

The indications are that the Proto-Greeks came from 3 places in several
 Waves.

The first inhabitants of Greece came in about 30,000 BC from Anatolia via a
land bridge across the Bospherous and inhabited Macedonia. At this time most
of the Aegean sea was actually Land. They were M172 linage.

Were these city dwellers and framers mute. NO of course not. They had a
 language of their own and that language was GREEK.

It was not until 2200 BC that Iberian migrants came to southern Greece and
 since the Cretan Palace Civilisation was there since 3000 BC it is blatantly
 obvious that these migrants assimilated the language of the Cretan Palace
Civilisation which was GREEK.

All the terms used in farming, city building and kingship would have come
 from City Dwellers NOT nomads. How could a nomad who had never seen bread
 before have a word for bread. How could they have a word for vase when they
 made no vases. How could they have a word for cow when they had never
 domesticated a cow.

In 8000 BC the first farmers came to Greece and Cyprus from Palestine by Sea
 and they were of the M35 DNA lineage.

In 5000 BC a wave of migration of the M173 linage came to the Balkans from
 Iberia and mixed with the existing M172 linage.

In 3000 BC a wave of early-Pelasgians migrated south from the Balkans into
 Greece and the islands.

From 2200-1900 BC Greek speaking peoples migrated into Greece from the
 Balkans. At the same time Phrygian, Teukrian and Thracian Tribes entered
 northern Greece and each was respectively pushed further east by successive
 migrations.
In 1700 BC the proto-Mycenaean's conquered Crete and Argolis.
In 1500 BC the Achaeans occupied the Peloponnese in the regions of Sparta
 and Argolis.
In 1420 BC the Cretans conquered Mylittus in Asia-Minor.
In 1380 the Aeolians occupied the eastern Peloponnese around Elis. They also
 along with the Pelasgians also occupied Crete.
In 1300 BC the Ionians occupied the northern Peloponnese in Aigialea.
In 1130 BC A contingent of Thessalians migrated to Boeotia and the Aeolians
(these Thessalians) migrated to Asia-Minor.
In 1100 BC the Dorians occupied the entire Peloponnese and pushed the
 Achaeans into Aigialea thus forcing the Ionians into Attica.
In 1071 BC the Ionians migrated to Asia-Minor.

R1b-L23 was in the Balkans, Anatolia & Middle East aswell back when the empires flourished. Hittites also carried it for example.
Peloponnese has a decent frequency of R1b-L23.

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Kumucakos my man .

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