Are these DNA-LAND scores typical for Tunisians?

**dddcc** · 09-22-2016, 08:44 PM

I cannot ask mother to undertake autosomal test, so I tried to deduce her hypothetical score from the results of a pure Tunisian and mine, unluckily there is no trace of any ftdna, dnaland or gedmatch results for any Tunisian, that's why I used the dnaland of an Algerian Arabophone from eastern Algeria since eastern Algerian Arabophones should be very close to Tunisian Arabophones (for instance both speak mainly the same dialect of Arabic)
Knowing that the paternal great father of mom is a Sudanese, are their hypthetical results typical for Tunisians and is there a tool to extrapolate her closest population from those virtual dnaland scores?
North Africans don't score nw European at DNA land so discarding my 48% nw European +my 1,9% ambiguous; my African half (my mother) should be approximatively (multiplying the remaining components by 2):
18% Ashkenazi
16% Mediterranean islander
15% Arab/Egyptian
11% sw European
34% north African
6% east African (I rounded the east African score at 6 not 7 because hypothetical male progenitor has slight SSA admixture in the chromatide I inherited from him and thus hinting to a southern US origin of him according to Dr. McDonald chromosome paintings of mine)

Herein an old (old because mother does not like photos she can be recognised be posted in internet) photo with me mother and maternal grandmother

Herein my FTDNA my origins and DNA-Land results then an intriguing admixture, oracle and n-monte results of mine done by mr. Vadim Verenich and finally my closest oracles.

Originally Posted by Vadim Verenich

Ok, here we go.

Code:

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        16 ancestral populations
    116463 total SNPs
         1 flipped SNPs
     23993 heterozygous SNPs
       604 no-calls
     42928 absent SNPs
  0.626216 genotype rate
      mode genomewide

 43532 SNPs missing (no-call or absent)

 10800  dQ:  1.000E-07  goal:  1.000E-07

     10802 total iterations
 1.000E-07 final dQ

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 FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
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  0.65%  Amerindian
  0.00%  Ancestor
 14.43%  Steppe
  0.05%  Indian
  0.00%  Arctic
  0.00%  Australian
 20.53%  Caucasian
  3.52%  EastAfrican
 17.58%  NorthEastEuropean
  7.53%  NearEast
 22.07%  Neolithic
 11.37%  NorthAfrican
  0.63%  Oceanic
  0.00%  Siberian
  0.00%  SouthEastAsian
  1.64%  Subsaharian

     CPU time =  379.81 sec

4Admix, you should disregard 1,2 population approximations and go straight to 3,4 population approximations.

Code:

16 components mode.
Population data has been read.  502 populations found.
Personal data has been read. 20 approximations mode.
Person: Test3.txt
Threshold of components set to 0.39%


Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Portuguese @ 11.798352
2 Switzerland @ 12.753583
3 Provance @ 13.67559
4 Belmonte_Jewish @ 13.682979
5 Romanians_Gorj @ 14.207786
6 Italy-Friul @ 14.380832
7 Romanians_Apuseni @ 14.882006
8 Austria @ 15.136611
9 Spanish_Canarias_IBS @ 15.289436
10 Corsican @ 15.370436
11 Italy_North @ 15.499315
12 France @ 15.525893
13 Montenegrian @ 15.752677
14 Bulgaria @ 15.801058
15 Spain @ 15.848176
16 Germany_South @ 15.849349
17 French_East @ 16.003919
18 Hungary @ 16.028423
19 Romanians @ 16.045316
20 Croat-BH @ 16.111404
502 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Libyan+Norwegian @ 6.435739
2 Icelandic+Libyan @ 6.54976
3 Libyan+Swedish @ 6.591117
4 Polish_East+Tunisian @ 6.636175
5 Dutch+Tunisian @ 6.669145
6 Polish_West+Tunisian @ 6.823351
7 Libyan+Orcadian @ 6.844881
8 Swedish+Tunisian @ 6.870797
9 Sorb+Tunisian @ 6.891293
10 German_Lipsian+Tunisian @ 6.907962
11 Libyan+Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 6.992995
12 English_Kent_GBR+Libyan @ 7.018577
13 Slovak+Tunisian @ 7.029363
14 Libyan+Shetlandic @ 7.029664
15 English_Cornwall_GBR+Libyan @ 7.048523
16 Shetlandic+Tunisian @ 7.120778
17 Tunisian+Ukranian @ 7.168409
18 Libyan+Scottish_Dumfries_Galloway @ 7.170043
19 Irish_Connacht+Libyan @ 7.178621
20 Libyan+Scottish_Borders @ 7.185382
126253 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Icelandic +25% Libyan_Jew +25% Tunisian @ 2.430637
2 50% Norwegian +25% Moroccan_Jewish +25% Tunisian @ 2.518872
3 50% Icelandic +25% Moroccan_Jewish +25% Tunisian @ 2.550836
4 50% Icelandic +25% Tunisian +25% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.607196
5 50% Icelandic +25% Libyan_Jewish +25% Tunisian @ 2.647773
6 50% Icelandic +25% Algerian +25% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.65516
7 50% Icelandic +25% Tunisian +25% Tunisian_Jew @ 2.694379
8 50% Norwegian +25% Libyan_Jew +25% Tunisian @ 2.705861
9 50% Swedish +25% Moroccan_Jewish +25% Tunisian @ 2.724696
10 50% Icelandic +25% Moroccan_Jew +25% Tunisian @ 2.744142
11 50% Icelandic +25% Algerian +25% Samaritan @ 2.765902
12 50% Norwegian +25% Algerian +25% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.79571
13 50% Norwegian +25% Tunisian +25% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.795772
14 50% Icelandic +25% Algerian +25% SephardiJewTurkey @ 2.823116
15 50% Icelandic +25% Algerian +25% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.830184
16 50% Norwegian +25% Moroccan_Jew +25% Tunisian @ 2.84856
17 50% Norwegian +25% Libyan_Jewish +25% Tunisian @ 2.859165
18 50% Icelandic +25% Libyan_Jewish +25% Shaigi_WGA @ 2.880943
19 50% Norwegian +25% Algerian +25% Moroccan_Jewish @ 2.915567
20 50% Swedish +25% Algerian +25% Moroccan_Jewish @ 2.918383
31819882 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Icelandic+Moroccan_Jewish+Swedish+Tunisian @ 2.412546
2 Icelandic+Icelandic+Libyan_Jew+Tunisian @ 2.430637
3 English_Kent_GBR+Estonian+Moroccan_Jewish+Tunisian @ 2.460383
4 Moroccan_Jewish+Norwegian+Swedish+Tunisian @ 2.485842
5 Finn-West+Icelandic+Moroccan_Jewish+Tunisian @ 2.507593
6 Icelandic+Moroccan_Jewish+Norwegian+Tunisian @ 2.518096
7 Moroccan_Jewish+Norwegian+Norwegian+Tunisian @ 2.518872
8 Estonian+Moroccan_Jewish+Orcadian+Tunisian @ 2.526312
9 Finn-West+Moroccan_Jewish+Norwegian+Tunisian @ 2.529715
10 English_Cornwall_GBR+Estonian+Moroccan_Jewish+Tunisian @ 2.5351
11 English_Kent_GBR+Latvian+Moroccan_Jewish+Tunisian @ 2.535955
12 Latvian+Moroccan_Jewish+Orcadian+Tunisian @ 2.537551
13 Finn-West+Moroccan_Jewish+Orcadian+Tunisian @ 2.53876
14 Icelandic+Icelandic+Moroccan_Jewish+Tunisian @ 2.550836
15 Icelandic+Libyan_Jew+Norwegian+Tunisian @ 2.555368
16 English_Cornwall_GBR+Latvian+Moroccan_Jewish+Tunisian @ 2.572216
17 Icelandic+Icelandic+Tunisian+Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.607196
18 Latvian+Moroccan_Jewish+Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR+Tunisian @ 2.621196
19 Icelandic+Icelandic+Libyan_Jewish+Tunisian @ 2.647773
20 Estonian+Moroccan_Jewish+Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR+Tunisian @ 2.648512
21 Icelandic+Moroccan_Jewish+Polish+Tunisian @ 2.653852
22 Algerian+Icelandic+Icelandic+Libyan_Jewish @ 2.65516
23 English_Kent_GBR+Lithuanian+Moroccan_Jewish+Tunisian @ 2.658468
24 Finn-West+Icelandic+Moroccan_Jew+Tunisian @ 2.663213
25 Lithuanian+Moroccan_Jewish+Orcadian+Tunisian @ 2.672025
26 Icelandic+Norwegian+Tunisian+Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.687373
27 Icelandic+Icelandic+Tunisian+Tunisian_Jew @ 2.694379
28 Estonian+Libyan_Jewish+Orcadian+Shaigi_WGA @ 2.702193
29 Icelandic+Moroccan_Jewish+Polish_West+Tunisian @ 2.705212
30 Libyan_Jew+Norwegian+Norwegian+Tunisian @ 2.705861
31 Finn-West+Moroccan_Jewish+Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR+Tunisian @ 2.708418
32 Algerian+Icelandic+Libyan_Jewish+Norwegian @ 2.71072
33 Icelandic+Moroccan_Jewish+Sorb+Tunisian @ 2.72429
34 Moroccan_Jewish+Swedish+Swedish+Tunisian @ 2.724696
35 English_Kent_GBR+Estonian+Moroccan_Jewish+Shaigi_WGA @ 2.726405
36 Latvian+Libyan_Jewish+Orcadian+Shaigi_WGA @ 2.727068
37 Latvia+Moroccan_Jewish+Orcadian+Tunisian @ 2.727191
38 English_Cornwall_GBR+Lithuanian+Moroccan_Jewish+Tunisian @ 2.728127
39 Center-Russian+Icelandic+Moroccan_Jewish+Tunisian @ 2.729495
40 Moroccan_Jewish+Orcadian+Polish+Tunisian @ 2.730409
304048207 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0.31652

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Portuguese @ 6.391055
2 Belmonte_Jewish @ 7.221396
3 Maltese @ 7.734804
4 Spanish_Canarias_IBS @ 8.411174
5 Spanish_Extremadura_IBS @ 8.512818
6 Corsican @ 8.61155
7 Spanish_Galicia_IBS @ 8.712956
8 Ashkenazim @ 8.791527
9 Sicilian @ 8.942446
10 Ashkenazi_Jew @ 9.347325
11 Spanish_Andalucia_IBS @ 9.397122
12 Italy_Abruzzo @ 9.469011
13 Ashkenazy @ 9.670549
14 Spain @ 9.671479
15 Spanish_Murcia_IBS @ 9.86069
16 Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha_IBS @ 9.862672
17 Italian_South @ 9.864772
18 Spaniards @ 9.918193
19 Italian_Jewish @ 9.96473
20 Provance @ 10.176566
502 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Polish_East+Shaigi_WGA @ 5.323162
2 English_Kent_GBR+Shaigi_WGA @ 5.419262
3 Dutch+Shaigi_WGA @ 5.421041
4 Shaigi_WGA+Swedish @ 5.462967
5 Croatian+Shaigi_WGA @ 5.469767
6 Croat-Croatia+Shaigi_WGA @ 5.49966
7 German_Lipsian+Shaigi_WGA @ 5.514997
8 Shaigi_WGA+Sorb @ 5.528999
9 Polish_West+Shaigi_WGA @ 5.536689
10 Hungarian_Coriell+Shaigi_WGA @ 5.541238
11 Orcadian+Shaigi_WGA @ 5.556668
12 Shaigi_WGA+Ukrainian_West @ 5.577832
13 Hungarians+Shaigi_WGA @ 5.590909
14 Serbian_BH+Shaigi_WGA @ 5.595799
15 Hungarian_Metspalu+Shaigi_WGA @ 5.603744
16 Norwegian+Shaigi_WGA @ 5.608518
17 Shaigi_WGA+Slovak @ 5.627172
18 Polish+Shaigi_WGA @ 5.6595
19 English_Kent_GBR+Tunisian @ 5.668262
20 Polish_East+Tunisian @ 5.673023
126253 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% English_Kent_GBR +25% Shaigi_WGA +25% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.511434
2 50% Orcadian +25% Shaigi_WGA +25% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.550637
3 50% Swedish +25% Shaigi_WGA +25% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.600446
4 50% English_Kent_GBR +25% Italian_Jewish +25% Shaigi_WGA @ 4.619689
5 50% Icelandic +25% Shaigi_WGA +25% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.628515
6 50% Norwegian +25% Shaigi_WGA +25% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.647168
7 50% English_Kent_GBR +25% SephardiJewTurkey +25% Shaigi_WGA @ 4.662034
8 50% Orcadian +25% SephardiJewTurkey +25% Shaigi_WGA @ 4.687103
9 50% Orcadian +25% Italian_Jewish +25% Shaigi_WGA @ 4.692261
10 50% English_Kent_GBR +25% Algerian +25% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.71578
11 50% English_Kent_GBR +25% Tunisian +25% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.717354
12 50% English_Kent_GBR +25% Bulgarian_Jewish +25% Shaigi_WGA @ 4.723336
13 50% Polish_East +25% Shaigi_WGA +25% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.723678
14 50% Orcadian +25% Tunisian +25% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.730753
15 50% Swedish +25% SephardiJewTurkey +25% Shaigi_WGA @ 4.734174
16 50% Orcadian +25% Libyan_Jew +25% Shaigi_WGA @ 4.737775
17 50% English_Kent_GBR +25% Libyan_Jew +25% Shaigi_WGA @ 4.738061
18 50% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR +25% Shaigi_WGA +25% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.741098
19 50% Icelandic +25% Tunisian +25% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.743442

Now, the most intriguing part (nMonte2 results):

Code:

[1] "Ncycles= 1000"
        Amerindian  Ancestor      Steppe     Indian     Arctic
kikk    0.00650000 0.0000000  0.14430000 0.00050000 0.00000000
fitted  0.00505615 0.0019352  0.14238905 0.00361445 0.00249015
dif    -0.00144385 0.0019352 -0.00191095 0.00311445 0.00249015
       Australian  Caucasian EastAfrican NorthEastEuropean
kikk    0.0000000  0.2053000   0.0352000         0.1758000
fitted  0.0026998  0.2033645   0.0331972         0.1736729
dif     0.0026998 -0.0019355  -0.0020028        -0.0021271
          NearEast  Neolithic NorthAfrican     Oceanic  Siberian
kikk    0.07530000  0.2207000    0.1137000  0.00630000 0.0000000
fitted  0.07349245  0.2190871    0.1118342  0.00479935 0.0043526
dif    -0.00180755 -0.0016129   -0.0018658 -0.00150065 0.0043526
       SouthEastAsian Subsaharian
kikk       0.00000000  0.01640000
fitted     0.00280595  0.01524235
dif        0.00280595 -0.00115765
[1] "distance%=0.9204 / distance=0.009204"


 kikk
"Orcadian"15.6
"Tunisian_Jewish"12
"Ukrainian_West"11.25
"English_Kent_GBR"7.95
"Spanish_Canarias_IBS"7.1
"Polish_East"6.2
"Burbur_WGA"5.6
"Mozabite"5.2
"Lithuanian"4.05
"Spaniards"3.4
"BedouinB"3.25
"Yemenite_Jew"2.6
"Shaigi_WGA"2.45
"Ethiopian_Jew"2.35
"Italy_Abruzzo"1.65
"Somali"1.4
"Libyan_Jew"1.3
"Spanish_Extremadura_IBS"0.75
"Bulgarians"0.7
"Croatian"0.7
"Italian_Jewish"0.7
"Afar_WGA"0.6
"Macedonians"0.5
"Saharawi"0.5
"Croat-Croatia"0.3
"Icelandic"0.25
"Italian_Bergamo"0.25
"Kurd_WGA"0.2
"Montenegrian"0.2
"Kosovar"0.15
"Swedish"0.15
"SephardiJewTurkey"0.1
"Sorb"0.1
"Spanish_Andalucia_IBS"0.1
"Corsican"0.05
"French"0.05
"Italian_Tuscan"0.05
"Maltese"0.05
"Moroccan_Jew"0.05
"Portuguese"0.05
"Serbian_BH"0.05
"Sicilian"0.05

nMonte2 restricted

Code:

[1] "Ncycles= 1000"
       Amerindian  Ancestor     Steppe     Indian     Arctic
kikk    0.0065000 0.0000000  0.1443000 0.00050000 0.00000000
fitted  0.0049708 0.0016113  0.1426526 0.00333625 0.00191365
dif    -0.0015292 0.0016113 -0.0016474 0.00283625 0.00191365
       Australian   Caucasian EastAfrican NorthEastEuropean
kikk    0.0000000  0.20530000  0.03520000         0.1758000
fitted  0.0025513  0.20353755  0.03340935         0.1737569
dif     0.0025513 -0.00176245 -0.00179065        -0.0020431
          NearEast   Neolithic NorthAfrican     Oceanic  Siberian
kikk    0.07530000  0.22070000   0.11370000  0.00630000 0.0000000
fitted  0.07343645  0.21906095   0.11188645  0.00522775 0.0044359
dif    -0.00186355 -0.00163905  -0.00181355 -0.00107225 0.0044359
       SouthEastAsian Subsaharian
kikk       0.00000000  0.01640000
fitted     0.00311585  0.01510245
dif        0.00311585 -0.00129755
[1] "distance%=0.8833 / distance=0.008833"


 kikk
"Tunisian_Jewish"19.65
"Ukrainian_West"18.7
"Orcadian"18.35
"Spanish_Canarias_IBS"11.1
"English_Kent_GBR"8.3
"Mozabite"5.8
"Burbur_WGA"4.85
"BedouinB"4.2
"Somali"3
"Lithuanian"2.25
"Ethiopian_Jew"1.4
"Shaigi_WGA"1.15
"Spaniards"0.9
"Yemenite_Jew"0.35
"Italy_Abruzzo"0
"Libyan_Jew"0
"Polish_East"0

Given these results, it is safe to make assumption that your father could be a mix between eastern and western Europeans (which is not so untypical for Americans). You score unusually high in Ukrainian_West/Lithuanian (18.7+8.3%) categories and that could theoretically imply ancestry from eastern Europe (circa 25%). Together with western European part of your ancestry (English_Kent + Orcadian) it would make a half of your ancestry (circa 50%). The rest known part of admixture - on your mom's side - is so obvious that it is not so necessary to reflect upon it.

MY CLOSEST ORACLE RESULTS (ONLY ORACLES WITHOUT ANCIENT POPULATIONS INCLUDED AND WITH GENETIC DISTANCE <3 AND WERE KEPT) :
1 Jew_France + Moroccan + CEU + Ukrainian-Center @ 0.927030 MDLP World
1 50% Icelandic +25% Libyan_Jew +25% Tunisian @ 2.518153 MDLP K23b
1 Algerian + BedouinA + British + Norwegian_West @ 2.072077 MDLP K23b
1 50% German-North +25% Jew_Italia +25% Moroccan @ 1.626955 MDLP World-22
1 Ashkenazim_V + Bulgarian + Moroccan + Swedish_V @ 1.338454 MDLP World-22
1 CEU + Morocco_Jews + Swedish + Sahara_OCC @ 1.618438 DODECAD V3
1 Orcadian + Moroccans + Morocco_Jews + Orkney @ 0.786353 DODECAD WORLD 9
1 Egyptans + Irish + Lithuanians + Moroccan @ 1.245447 DODECAD K7B
1 Algerian + British_Isles + Egyptans + Norwegian @ 2.582850 DODECAD K12B
1 morocco-jew + orcadian + saharawi + ukranian @ 1.484872 HARAPPA
1 Scottish_West + Ukrainian + Tunisian + Egyptian @ 1.474127 puntDNAL K10 Ancient
1 50% Dutch_North +25% Egyptian +25% Tunisian @ 1.878823 puntDNAL K12 Modern
1 BedouinA + German_North + Scottish_West + Tunisian @ 1.355784 puntDNAL K12 Modern
1 Belarusian + Austrian + Ashkenazy_Jew + Mozabite_Berber @ 2.520722 puntDNAL K15
1 Maltese + Russian + Spanish + Yemen @ 2.900741 GEDROSIA Eurasia K11 CHG-NAF
1 50% BedouinA +50% Georgian_Jew @ 0.254189 Gedrosia K3
1 50% Armenian +25% Saudi +25% Yemen @ 0.000000 Gedrosia K3
1 French_South + Norwegian + Turkish + Yemen @ 2.734444 Gedrosia K11

**~~Maguzanci~~** · 09-22-2016, 11:19 PM

Your mother seem to be genetically typical for Tunisian. It would be very cool to find out that your father is indeed originally from the US!! But why would an American move to Tunisia from the US along long time ago?? Thats very bizarre indeed.
Can you get your father test?

**dddcc** · 09-23-2016, 04:34 PM

Yes it's strange, I won't afford to (at this point) test parents because it is very sensitive.

**dddcc** · 09-23-2016, 04:35 PM

I was baffled by the fact that some of my closest oracles hypothetise me as 50%North European+25%North African +25% Jew and by my scoring of nearly 10% ashkenazi at FTDNA and Dna Land.
Afaik I dont have Jewish ancestors (all I came out with is that some of my northafrican ancestors bear surnames common to both Muslims and Jews such as Kammun and Besbes)
Do you agree with me that the showing up of jews in oracles of a half European half Northafrican mixed person is a hiatus due to calcs biase to perceive the combination of arab+european admixture as Jewish?

**~~Maguzanci~~** · 09-23-2016, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by dddcc

Yes it's strange, I won't afford to (at this point) test parents because it is very sensitive.

You mean your parents find it very sensitive? Can you test your sister?

Few other Tunisians that I know have tested is Darko from Anthrogenica. And there is this Tunisian friend of Stellaritic, the Algerian member there who he said has already done 23andme. Maybe you can ask Stellaritic to ask his Tunisian friend to do autosomal tests and compared the results?:http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...P25-in-Tunisia

**~~Maguzanci~~** · 09-24-2016, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by dddcc

I cannot ask mother to undertake autosomal test, so I tried to deduce her hypothetical score from the results of a pure Tunisian and mine, unluckily there is no trace of any ftdna, dnaland or gedmatch results for any Tunisian, that's why I used the dnaland of an Algerian Arabophone from eastern Algeria since eastern Algerian Arabophones should be very close to Tunisian Arabophones (for instance both speak mainly the same dialect of Arabic)

Actually there is the member Ignis90, who is from Tunisia himself. But from what I saw of his results, he seem to be closer to Mozabite genetically than most Tunisians from what I notice due to higher SSA.

I found few more Tunisians on anthrogenica. Maybe you can ask them to do autosomal DNA tests and compared the results with you?:

Tunisian member Jof: http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...received-E-m35
http://www.anthrogenica.com/member.php?4784-jof2311

Selim, member from Tunisia: http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...DNA-test-E-V13
http://www.anthrogenica.com/member.php?4925-selim

There is also the member Darko who is also from Tunisia who now in Senegal. Although Darko himself is like 50% SSA admixed which would make him a genetic outlier in contrast to most Tunisian results

**~~Maguzanci~~** · 09-27-2016, 10:51 PM

Pondering again, your result is not that typical because you are genetically half North European when most Tunisians are genetically Northwest African. Although I think there are might be few more Tunisians who are half North Euro like you as well. But I think it is a lot easier to find Tunisians who are more South Euro or West Asian-shifted than North Euro admix.

Do you have any other matches in gedmatch from the Maghreb and do you know their results?

Also if you don't mind, can you try this Eurasia Geodrosia 10 CHG calculator: http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/5917907/1/

Here is the averages: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-O...F0RDF1WlU/view

You can also compared yourself to this Tunisian: http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...l=1#post125117

Spoiler!

Also can you try West Eurasia K8 please? Here are the averages as well: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...t#gid=74932529 and https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...XwUsAA/pubhtml

** But if I remember correctly, you will have to contact Longbowman and donate $20 to get your K8 results. So it is your choice.

**used2bwhite** · 09-27-2016, 11:01 PM

DNA-land is horrible, I wouldn't take it as reference.

**dddcc** · 09-27-2016, 11:27 PM

Thanks a lot Sarkin

, finally I found the results of another Tunisian.
BTW here are my Eurasia K10 CHG results
1 WHG 26.63
2 Anatolian_Farmers 20.65
3 CHG 17.52
4 SW_Asian 16.78
5 EHG 9.36
6 W_African 6.92
7 S_Indian 0.92
8 E_Asian 0.68
9 Papuan 0.37
10 Amerindian 0.15

**~~Maguzanci~~** · 09-27-2016, 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by dddcc

Thanks a lot Sarkin

, finally I found the results of another Tunisian.
BTW here are my Eurasia K10 CHG results
1 WHG 26.63
2 Anatolian_Farmers 20.65
3 CHG 17.52
4 SW_Asian 16.78
5 EHG 9.36
6 W_African 6.92
7 S_Indian 0.92
8 E_Asian 0.68
9 Papuan 0.37
10 Amerindian 0.15

Your W African and SW Asian seem to be remarkably lower than the Tunisian sample that I posted. Also your WHG is the dominating component while Anatolian Farmer is the dominating component for that Tunisian. Can you also post your oracles if you don't mind?

I will post other North African Eurasia CHG K10 results so that you can compared if you are interested.

What do you think about West Eurasia K8? It is your choice though if you want to donate or not.