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    An Iranian origin is also possible, but the Avar theory is more likely since they were in close contact.



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    "in 626 they attacked Constantinople unsuccesfully"



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    Quote Originally Posted by adsız View Post
    "in 626 they attacked Constantinople unsuccesfully"


    Why you are happy with that?
    What a modern Turk have with Constantinople/Tsarigrad? You destroyed Constantinople and converted it into ugly middle eastern city of ''Istanbul''.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa Nazione View Post
    Why you are happy with that?
    What a modern Turk have with Constantinople/Tsarigrad? You destroyed Constantinople and converted it into ugly middle eastern city of ''Istanbul''.
    No destruction at all.

    Off topic.

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    According to Contantine VII, Diocletian settled Romans in Dalmatia. He calls them 'Romani' because the term 'Romaioi' which meant 'Romans' was used for 'Byzantines'.
    Then these Romans were expelled by Avars.
    And the Avars were massacred according to the text by Croats who came from White Croatia (In the text White Croatia seems to have been close to Bavaria).
    But some Avars continued to live with the Croats. Whatever their number was they seem to have been a minority.

    Of course, the text might be wrong (although I personally believe that it was based on things 'Byzantines' heard from Croats themselves) but saying that Croats descend from Avars is weird. What's the reason for that?

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    the Oghur-Turkic theory is the strongest and most plausible one. Sadly 99% of Oghurs were assimilated/slaughtered.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Danaus View Post
    but saying that Croats descend from Avars is weird. What's the reason for that?
    Not weirder than Onogur theory.

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    It's soo small % of ''Avar'' haplogroups among Croats. Anyway, it's false theory, Croats are Slavs with small Latin (Dalmatia) and German (Zagorje) influence.
    The haplogroup N-M214 was found only in Croatia (2.2%). It is very frequent in the Far East, like Siberia and China, while in Europe in Finns (60%) and in the Baltic countries (45%). Unusually for European populations, another central Asian-Siberian haplogroup P (i.e. Q) was found in unusually high frequencies in the islands of Hvar (14%) and Korčula (6%). The occurrence could have happened with the Avars migration, the ancient trade route Silk Road, or the Ottoman invasion. - this is from shitypedia.
    Croatian national reference Y-STR haplotype database

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    I mean just have a look at these Bulgars, they speak Slavic and look Slavic for the most part, but their fucking ethnonym is Turkic. LOL.


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