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    Quote Originally Posted by Enflamme View Post
    Basque is not the same than Spanish or other language (and not the same ethnie ; like, in France, Gascon is not the same than Alsacian, etc)

    Are you serious?

    You have already read a Basque text and Spanish text?

    Ok, go:

    Spanish: "El euskera, eusquera, vascuence, vasco, éuscaro o vascongado (euskara en euskera batúa y euskera,9 eskuara9 o üskara en algunas variedades dialectales), conocido también en la Edad Moderna como vizcaíno, es una lengua no indoeuropea hablada en territorios de España y Francia junto al golfo de Vizcaya. Es considerada como una lengua aislada y junto a lenguas como finés, húngaro, estonio, georgiano, turco y maltés, es uno de los pocos idiomas hablados actualmente en Europa que no desciende del tronco indoeuropeo y el único de Europa Occidental."

    Basque: "Euskara Euskal Herriko hizkuntza da. Hizkuntza isolatua da, ez baitzaio ahaidetasunik aurkitu, eta morfologiari dagokionez, hizkuntza ergatiboa da. Euskaraz mintzo direnei euskaldun deritze. Gaur egun, Euskal Herrian bertan ere gutxituta dago, lurralde horretan gaztelania eta frantsesa nagusitu baitira."

    Very, very, very different
    Basque is very different from Castilian Spanish and from any other romance language, of course. Is not even an Indo-European language.

    What I mean is that it is a Spanish language, because Basque country is in Spain, and Basques are Spaniards, and even if their regional language (only surviving because a very minority of them still speak it) is very different from other Spanish languages, Basques are very close, genetically, and phenotype-wise, to the rest of the Iberian people.
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    Looks like mixture of Castillian and French....

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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    Basque is very different from Castilian Spanish and from any other romance language, of course. Is not even an Indo-European language.

    What I mean is that is a Spanish language, because Basque country is in Spain, and Basques are Spaniards, and even if their regional language (only surviving because a very minority of them still speak it) is very different from other Spanish languages, Basques are very close, genetically, and phenotype-wise, to the rest of the Iberian people.
    There are French Baques and they are not from Spain.....

    Ancient Basque region was from NE Spain to Aquitaine.....

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    i dont know, but it's not portuguese, and dont sounds spanish for me... maybe french

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    It does not sound Spanish, Basque or Romance. I'd guess it to be some Kavkazian or Turkic language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Smoke View Post
    There are French Baques and they are not from Spain.....

    Ancient Basque region was from NE Spain to Aquitaine.....
    I know that. But most of Basque country (and where Basque language is spoken today) is in Spain. And the initial core of the Basque language (Navarra) is in Spain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chocolatelover View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valencian

    and I read many words in Valencian(Valencian dictionary), and they indeed have Catalan origin
    I know but officially it is two different languages.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chocolatelover View Post
    and I know the language spoken in Valencian community is Castillian...
    I would say 50-50. In the cities (Valencia or Alicante) most of people speak Castilians, in the villages I would say more Valencian. Of course most of them know the two languages.

    Quote Originally Posted by Enflamme View Post
    Basque is not the same than Spanish or other language (and not the same ethnie ; like, in France, Gascon is not the same than Alsacian, etc)

    Are you serious?

    You have already read a Basque text and Spanish text?

    Ok, go:

    Spanish: "El euskera, eusquera, vascuence, vasco, éuscaro o vascongado (euskara en euskera batúa y euskera,9 eskuara9 o üskara en algunas variedades dialectales), conocido también en la Edad Moderna como vizcaíno, es una lengua no indoeuropea hablada en territorios de España y Francia junto al golfo de Vizcaya. Es considerada como una lengua aislada y junto a lenguas como finés, húngaro, estonio, georgiano, turco y maltés, es uno de los pocos idiomas hablados actualmente en Europa que no desciende del tronco indoeuropeo y el único de Europa Occidental."

    Basque: "Euskara Euskal Herriko hizkuntza da. Hizkuntza isolatua da, ez baitzaio ahaidetasunik aurkitu, eta morfologiari dagokionez, hizkuntza ergatiboa da. Euskaraz mintzo direnei euskaldun deritze. Gaur egun, Euskal Herrian bertan ere gutxituta dago, lurralde horretan gaztelania eta frantsesa nagusitu baitira."

    Very, very, very different
    Alnortdelsur answered you perfectly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Smoke View Post
    There are French Baques and they are not from Spain.....

    Ancient Basque region was from NE Spain to Aquitaine.....
    Ancient Basque region was... current Navarra.

    Genetically Spanish Basques and French Basques are not identical. I guess according some people they are not the same people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    Is a romance language, but the soundtrack is too short for me to determine which one is.

    And I would say "Castilian-Spanish" instead of just "Spanish", because Basque, Aragonese, Catalan and Galician are Spanish languages too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chocolatelover View Post
    when the song starts, I would thought that was a Brazilian song(the rhythm)

    but I don't know, I would say Catalan or some variant of Catalan(Valencian,Balearic...) or Aragonese
    Quote Originally Posted by B01AB20 View Post
    It could be some sort of italian dialect, or maybe romanian.

    it doesn't sound like any of the different 'spanish languages' to me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Big Smoke View Post
    Looks like mixture of Castillian and French....
    Quote Originally Posted by Palmeirista View Post
    i dont know, but it's not portuguese, and dont sounds spanish for me... maybe french
    Quote Originally Posted by Iltirbas View Post
    It does not sound Spanish, Basque or Romance. I'd guess it to be some Kavkazian or Turkic language.
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    Israeli?
    thank you for answers. i think you are all spanish or portuguese speakers as you answered to it. (not sure members without flags)
    but elbarbaro, you speak spanish i guess. this really can be hebrew (you mean ladino)? interesting. iltyrbas, its not kavkazian (theres no such language group) and turkic language. are you a romance speaker?

    do you hear any words thats common in languages any of you speak? i thought i heard some spanish (esta noche) -- maybe in a north dialect. or maybe portuguese (noite), also some italian (cose) and even some french (apres) -- the last part. any words?

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    sorry if caused a confusion with naming (castilian). i know what you mean when you said basque and some others are also spanish languages. you refer to fact they are spaniards, citizens of spain (though there are basques in france too) despite being from a different language family or other.

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