Who have more Black African ancestry: Madeiran Portuguese, white Americans, or white South Africans?

[Maguzanci]

lol wow that's interesting, i havent seen a "Boer" before here.


also, Boer in dutch means Farmer, so that's quite odd.


eitherway yeah, i thought south african whites would have more SSA because they are literally in the continent of africa, seems like i was grossely mistaken

He seems to live in Canada. Loki and Kazimiera are also Boer/Afrikaners.

Well was bit surprise to see that he basically has zero Negroid while Loki and Kazimiera actually scores in very tiny amounts. So am not sure how typical his results is for Afrikaners.

[Congolese Rice]

He seems to live in Canada. Loki and Kazimiera are also Boer/Afrikaners.

Well was bit surprise to see that he basically has zero Negroid while Loki and Kazimiera actually scores in very tiny amounts. So am not sure how typical his results is for Afrikaners.

im not sure either, but one thing i do know is that "Afrikaners" are just europeans born in Africa, LOL.


being born in africa doesnt make you an african, having African ancestry, black parents/grandparents, and having black blood course through your veins that makes you african.


I can claim being African despite not being born there lol.


And lmao thats cool, didnt know Loki was actually a Afrikaner. His profile just said "Boer" so i assumed he took a Dutch word and put it there, loool

[Nico Nobrix]

By the way there are some Madeirans with 0 sub saharan in theirDNA, even on GEDmatch calculators. I am not an exception, but this is my k13


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Spanish_Murcia @ 4.197525
2 Portuguese @ 4.775830
3 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5.019466
4 Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.657891
5 Spanish_Valencia @ 6.315535
6 Spanish_Galicia @ 6.342431
7 Spanish_Cataluna @ 6.457965
8 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 7.068868
9 Spanish_Andalucia @ 7.446435
10 Spanish_Cantabria @ 8.987102
11 Spanish_Aragon @ 9.162874
12 Southwest_French @ 11.715899
13 North_Italian @ 12.350068
14 French @ 12.489285
15 Tuscan @ 18.189545
16 South_Dutch @ 19.206604
17 West_German @ 19.292810
18 French_Basque @ 22.340303
19 Southeast_English @ 23.597307
20 Southwest_English @ 24.265493

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Portuguese +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.193868


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Spanish_Aragon +25% Tunisian +25% West_Scottish @ 4.012842


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 French_Basque + Southeast_English + Spanish_Murcia + Tunisian @ 3.592539
2 French_Basque + Southeast_English + Spanish_Valencia + Tunisian @ 3.658498
3 Algerian + French_Basque + Southeast_English + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.806770
4 Algerian + French_Basque + Southeast_English + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.827144
5 French_Basque + Southeast_English + Spanish_Cataluna + Tunisian @ 3.874631
6 French_Basque + Southeast_English + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Tunisian @ 3.922664
7 French_Basque + Southwest_English + Spanish_Murcia + Tunisian @ 3.924314
8 Algerian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.937198
9 French_Basque + Southeast_English + Spanish_Aragon + Tunisian @ 3.941115
10 French_Basque + Southwest_English + Spanish_Valencia + Tunisian @ 3.965291
11 French_Basque + Orcadian + Spanish_Murcia + Tunisian @ 3.969291
12 Algerian + Southwest_English + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.984778
13 French_Basque + Spanish_Valencia + Tunisian + West_Scottish @ 3.994721
14 French_Basque + Orcadian + Spanish_Valencia + Tunisian @ 3.994961
15 Southwest_English + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Aragon + Tunisian @ 4.000833
16 French_Basque + Spanish_Murcia + Tunisian + West_Scottish @ 4.006845
17 Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Aragon + Tunisian + West_Scottish @ 4.012842
18 Algerian + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Aragon + West_Scottish @ 4.031366
19 Southeast_English + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Aragon + Tunisian @ 4.081674
20 Algerian + French_Basque + Southeast_English + Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.087612


Anyone really good at analyzing this? I'm a Madeiran native

[Congolese Rice]

also, the awsner is yemeni, yemeni is the blackest of all.

[Nico Nobrix]

See how North Africans have 20% SSA? Iberians have 2-10% North African with the higher percentages in West Iberia, mostly from Neolithic era by the way, and Medieval. If you do the math, these representations of 1-2% SSA is embedded in the 5% average of NA dna in Iberia. I also find this consistent with my DNA considering full Portuguese background, with Ancestry, 23 and me, myheritage, and GEDmatch show 1%, 2%, 2%, and 3% SSA in that order.

Because of the consistent numbers of SSA between mainlanders and my own DNA from Madeira, I find it far fetch to believe Madeirans absorbed all of the SSA slaves since the discovery of the island. My Madeiran roots go back at least 4 generations

[Nico Nobrix]

That's because NA input is from Neolithic not Medieval

[Sikeliot]

See how North Africans have 20% SSA? Iberians have 2-10% North African with the higher percentages in West Iberia, mostly from Neolithic era by the way, and Medieval. If you do the math, these representations of 1-2% SSA is embedded in the 5% average of NA dna in Iberia. I also find this consistent with my DNA considering full Portuguese background, with Ancestry, 23 and me, myheritage, and GEDmatch show 1%, 2%, 2%, and 3% SSA in that order.

Because of the consistent numbers of SSA between mainlanders and my own DNA from Madeira, I find it far fetch to believe Madeirans absorbed all of the SSA slaves since the discovery of the island. My Madeiran roots go back at least 4 generations

Madeirans do have some ancestry from SSA slaves. there were 10% of slaves on the island in the 1700s, they were absorbed into the white population. The SSA in Madeira is not just from the Moors, because Madeirans have the embedded 1-2% SSA from Moors AND recent SSA that gives them a higher amount than mainlanders -- the latter part is from slaves.