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    Default Germany is a great nation due to its Polish blood.

    Was Nietzsche correct here when he stated that "Germany is a great nation because they have so much polish blood in them"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drawing-slim View Post
    Was Nietzsche correct here when he stated that "Germany is a great nation because they have so much polish blood in them"?
    Nietzsche was not Polish, his desires notwithstanding. Nietzsche was found to be a generic German surname.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Óttar View Post
    Nietzsche was not Polish, his desires notwithstanding. Nietzsche was found to be a generic German surname.
    I understand he was german which makes his statment even more interesting coming from an interesting fella like himself.
    Perhaps germans have ancient polish blood in them while modern day poles habe mixed with further eastern slavs through the centuries.

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    MAKES SENSE

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    There were Slavs other than Poles in East Germany; the original Prussians come to mind first. The last Slavic "pagan" settlement was in Ruegen, Germany at a fortress called Arkona.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Óttar View Post
    There were Slavs other than Poles in East Germany; the original Prussians come to mind first.
    Prussians were not Slavs, and they were not in East Germany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lech_pride View Post
    Nietzsche admitted he came from polish nobility.
    It's bullshit.

    Most scholars dispute Nietzsche's account of his family's origins. Hans von Müller debunked the genealogy put forward by Nietzsche's sister in favor of a Polish noble heritage.[95] Max Oehler, the curator of the Nietzsche Archive at Weimar, argued that all of Nietzsche's ancestors bore German names, even the wives' families.[91] Oehler claims that Nietzsche came from a long line of German Lutheran clergymen on both sides of his family, and modern scholars regard the claim of Nietzsche's Polish ancestry as a "pure invention".[96] Colli and Montinari, the editors of Nietzsche's assembled letters, gloss Nietzsche's claims as a "mistaken belief" and "without foundation."[97][98] The name Nietzsche itself is not a Polish name, but an exceptionally common one throughout central Germany, in this and cognate forms (such as Nitsche and Nitzke). The name derives from the forename Nikolaus, abbreviated to Nick; assimilated with the Slavic Nitz, it first became Nitsche and then Nietzsche.[91]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Nietzsche


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    Quote Originally Posted by Óttar View Post
    Nietzsche was not Polish, his desires notwithstanding. Nietzsche was found to be a generic German surname.
    German, but also present in deep Poland.
    One of my greatgrandmothers has it, and
    actual bishop of Warsaw has it too. Very
    popular in southern outskirts of Poland.

    Nietsche was trying to make himself a Niecki.
    Who knows, maybe he was a descendant of
    some polish protestant religious dissidents
    from before two-three centuries?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Óttar View Post
    It's bullshit.
    "assimilated with the Slavic Nitz, it first
    became Nitsche and then Nietzsche."


    Anyway, it doesn;t matter he was or not.
    What matters is, what he belived and said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drawing-slim View Post
    I understand he was german which makes his statment even more interesting coming from an interesting fella like himself.
    Perhaps germans have ancient polish blood in them
    Probably at least 1/4.

    13% of people in Germany (what makes % of Germans highier considering that
    this 13% was counted together with Turks and others recent immigrants) bear
    slavic surnames (mostly polish) and probably at least twice as much as it was
    germanized before surnames were invented or were germanized also.

    while modern day poles habe mixed with further eastern slavs through the centuries.
    Not so much... There were Poles and notyetPoles in the past. The first ones
    only partialy with russian elite, the second ones were stationary and did not
    moved into east... but some influence of course was, but not so big.

    I would argue, that much more Germans were polonized than Russians.

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