Is R1a really of Proto-Turkic origin, or no?

**Vlatko Vukovic** · 10-31-2017, 02:45 PM

According to some Turkic users, R1a originate directly from Proto-Turks, and they have of course arguments for it, mostly based on DNA analyses from Anatoliy Klyosov.

Is this pure reallity or some branches of R1a are not connected with Turks? Discuss.

**zarzian** · 10-31-2017, 03:13 PM

R1a is intrusive in Turkics, butthurt will make people claim extraordinary things.

Ülev · 10-31-2017, 05:24 PM

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ngoloid/page19

el bumpo

**Vlatko Vukovic** · 10-31-2017, 07:34 PM

Bump

**Kess** · 10-31-2017, 07:39 PM

As far as I know Q is the Proto-Turkic Haplogroup

**Vlatko Vukovic** · 10-31-2017, 07:48 PM

There are claims from Kipchak Hakan and my TA friend Sundqvist that R1a is proto Turkic.

**Massagetae** · 10-31-2017, 07:50 PM

Q + R1a + R1b = Turkic. N1b's like me joined in on the fun.

**Vlatko Vukovic** · 10-31-2017, 07:53 PM

Question is: Is r1a come to Turks from Slavs or to Slavs from Turks

**~~Rethel~~** · 10-31-2017, 08:29 PM

Nope.

But could be, if someone would be able to prove,
that Turks (such named people) were originally IEs,
and later were altayaizied. It is possible, and there
are some traces which could support such claim, but
as general, as Turks = Altays - defnitly not. In such
extrem case, it would be nice, if Turkish nations, at
least R1 parts of it, would swich to IE tounge.

**de Burgh II** · 10-31-2017, 08:54 PM

All I can offer for you is this piece of advice; don't take anything you see on this site seriously. Half of it is mostly trolling material or biased, ethno-nationalist/-centric propaganda.