Putin: 'Kosovo is Albanian land'

**GoneWithTheWind** · 10-05-2016, 02:13 AM

**Colonel Frank Grimes** · 10-05-2016, 02:19 AM

I wonder what angle Putin is going for here (assuming it's an accurate translation). Russia doesn't want a UN base in the Balkans and UN has a huge friggin' base in Kosovo. What's your scam, Putin? What are you up to?

**GoneWithTheWind** · 10-05-2016, 02:33 AM

Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes

I wonder what angle Putin is going for here (assuming it's an accurate translation). Russia doesn't want a UN base in the Balkans and UN has a huge friggin' base in Kosovo. What's your scam Putin?

The UN can get out. Simple. Kosovo should join Albania. And lets make peace. It would of happened originally if it wasnt for Serbian intervention. A united Albania only adds stability to the Balkans.

The majority of the population is Albanian and it has been so for a very long time. And was also Albanian when it got invaded by Serbia. Check out my sig. Most of those areas were majority Albanian. And were out of Serbian control. It was Albanians that did the fighting in these areas against the ottomans and even protected tge serbian minorities and nediecal churches left from nemanjic empire. Serbia invaded it after. They illegally incorporated kosovo into serbia.

You need a very goid reason for a population to live under you.

Kosovo wasnt a serbian land to begin with. It was the nemanjic who conquered kosovo, fyrom and albania and built those churches. Modern day Serbia doesnt even have any continuity with this medieval empire. They are just interested in the mines.

The population is Albanian. And there lived Albanians even in Nish. They all got expelled. They claim Albanians expanded but they expanded themselves ibto these lands and when they came to these lands they origibally found Albaniabs and Vlachs living. And these people became a minority in their own lands due to slavic expansion. For example, their has continuisly been an Albanian presence in kosovo they just didbt always make up the majority due to slavs mass settling there

Ottoman occupation stopped slavic expansion.

**Coolguy1** · 10-05-2016, 02:41 AM

Originally Posted by MONEY

The UN can get out. Simple. Kosovo should join Albania. And lets make peace. It would of happened originally if it wasnt for Serbian intervention. A united Albania only adds stability to the Balkans.

The majority of the population is Albanian and it has been so for a very long time. And was also Albanian when it got invaded by Serbia. Check out my sig. Most of those areas were majority Albanian. And were out of Serbian control. It was Albanians that did the fighting in these areas against the ottomans and even protected tge serbian minorities and nediecal churches left from nemanjic empire. Serbia invaded it after. They illegally incorporated kosovo into serbia.

You need a very goid reason for a population to live under you.

Kosovo wasnt a serbian land to begin with. It was the nemanjic who conquered kosovo, fyrom and albania and built those churches. Modern day Serbia doesnt even have any continuity with this medieval empire. They are just interested in the mines.

The population is Albanian. And there lived Albanians even in Nish. They all got expelled. They claim Albanians expanded but they expanded themselves ibto these lands and when they came to these lands they origibally found Albaniabs and Vlachs living. And these people became a minority in their own lands due to slavic expansion. For example, their has continuisly been an Albanian presence in kosovo they just didbt always make up the majority due to slavs mass settling there

Ottoman occupation stopped slavic expansion.

Can most Kosovo Albanians trace their lineage back to Malesia or is that only a portion of the population?

**GoneWithTheWind** · 10-05-2016, 03:14 AM

Originally Posted by Sorcelow

Can most Kosovo Albanians trace their lineage back to Malesia or is that only a portion of the population?

It depends. There were non tribal albanians recorded in kosovo. Arbanasi. There was a pre ottoman albanian population in kosovo. By the time malsi migrations happened there was already a large albanian population. And it was the result of the growth of an indigenous population. Malsi migrations were mostly families that fled blood feuds. And they werent any larger than the already existibg albanian population in the area.

Regardless. Slavs expanded there themselves. Even into albania where they made up the majority in the lowlands going by demographics. It got all conquered by the ottomans. Albanians expanded later such as mountain tribes into the lowlands . But they arent allowed to expand? But slavs can settle in albanian lands? The growth of an albanian population in kosovo is malsi+indigenous population. People joibed tribes for protection. Prior to that most albanian lowlanders were being slavicized even the ones who retained an albanian identity still sone of them had albanian-slavic orthodox names. Basically ottoman occupation reversed it. People became islamized instead. Malsi migrations were recorded in 17th century, by then there was already an population in the area most likely that had grown. Albanian tribes barely were even at their formation in 14th-15 century when there were albabians recorded.

The area under bulgarian empire was described as bulgarian. And at that time there was an Albanian village founded in bulgaria: Arbanasi. So most likely there was a Albanian population in kosovo then too if there was an albanian village in bulgaria. Serbs expanded later with the nemanjic empire. They came from rashka. It was the original serbian homeland. Most serbs did not live ib kosovo for more then 200 years. People have moved in and out of tje region continuisly. Serbian families also settled in kosovo during ottoman times.

In fact every serb has come from rashka and expanded south into kosovo.

**Coolguy1** · 10-05-2016, 03:22 AM

Originally Posted by MONEY

It depends. There were non tribal albanians recorded in kosovo. Arbanasi. There was a pre ottoman albanian population in kosovo. By the time malsi migrations happened there was already a large albanian population. And it was the result of the growth of an indigenous population. Malsi migrations were mostly families that fled blood feuds. And they werent any larger than the already existibg albanian population in the area.

Regardless. Slavs expanded there themselves. Even into albania where they made up the majority in the lowlands going by demographics. It got all conquered by the ottomans. Albanians expanded later such as mountain tribes into the lowlands . But they arent allowed to expand? But slavs can settle in albanian lands? The growth of an albanian population in kosovo is malsi+indigenous population. People joibed tribes for protection.

The area under bulgarian empire was described as bulgarian. And at that time there was an Albanian village founded in bulgaria: Arbanasi. So most likely there was a Albanian population in kosovo then too if there was an albanian village in bulgaria. Serbs expanded later with the nemanjic empire. They came from rashka. It was the original serbian homeland. Most serbs did not live ib kosovo for more then 200 years. People have moved in and out of tje region continuisly. Serbian families also settled in kosovo during ottoman times.

In a 1485 census it appears that the majority of the names in Kosovo as well as parts of northern Albania are Slavic, but its interesting because often times a father with a Serbian name will have a son with an Albanian name, or vice versa.

What you are saying makes sense, there was probably always an indigenous Albanian population in Kosovo that did not have tribal affiliations.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3ma...VXMXV1NFE/edit

Check this out

**Norka** · 10-05-2016, 03:34 AM

kosovo je srbija

**GoneWithTheWind** · 10-05-2016, 03:42 AM

Originally Posted by Sorcelow

In a 1485 census it appears that the majority of the names in Kosovo as well as parts of northern Albania are Slavic, but its interesting because often times a father with a Serbian name will have a son with an Albanian name, or vice versa.

What you are saying makes sense, there was probably always an indigenous Albanian population in Kosovo that did not have tribal affiliations.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3ma...VXMXV1NFE/edit

Check this out

Yeah it is absolutely true. You can read this book:

He says the same thing. I have this book. And there are some others i wanna buy from tim judah.

To think that a Albanian population in kosovo grew just alone from Malsi migrations is bullshit. It is propganda.
People dont have to believe it. They can just read some books and be open minded.

During serbian empire, albanians in kosovo were becomig serbianized. They were decreasing. After ottoman occupation it seems that a small indigenous albabian population in kosovo started growing again.
And latet came also some migrations from malsi. Vlachs totally disappeared. There was a vlach population too. A minority. Most of them were serbianized.

I know my ancestors most likely came from malsi because of the genetic testt ive done i get a lot albanians from there.

Serbs came from rashka. It was the original home land of serbs before they expanded into kosovo and albania. They conqueted yhose areas from the byzantium

**GoneWithTheWind** · 10-05-2016, 03:46 AM

Originally Posted by Бes

kosovo je srbija

What makes it serbian? Im really interested to see a gooid reason for why an albanian population in kosovo should live under serb rule? Was it originally their land ? No. So how are we gonna create peace here if you are too chavunistic to let go of a land that wasnt yours to begin with?

**Coolguy1** · 10-05-2016, 03:48 AM

Originally Posted by MONEY

Yeah it is absolutely true. You can read this book:

He says the same thing. I have this book. And there are some others i wanna buy from tim judah.

To think that a Albanian population in kosovo grew just alone from Malsi migrations is bullshit. It is propganda.
People dont have to believe it. They can just read some books and be open minded.

During serbian empire, albanians in kosovo were becomig serbianized. They were decreasing. After ottoman occupation it seems that a small indigenous albabian population in kosovo started growing again.
And latet came also some migrations from malsi. Vlachs totally disappeared. There was a vlach population too. A minority. Most of them were serbianized.

I know my ancestors most likely came from malsi because of the genetic testt ive done i get a lot albanians from there.

Serbs came from rashka. It was the original home land of serbs before they expanded into kosovo and albania. They conqueted yhose areas from the byzantium

Is there a collective memory of any Serbs living in the region you are from? There are some isolated Serbian villages in the Metohia/Dukagjin region, are they newcomers or have they been there for a while?