Is it more accurate to presume that Fyromians are Slavicizied Daco-Thracians?

[Crn Volk]

The international scientific community should come in agreement that both Macedonians and Bulgarians are descendants of slavized Albanians. We need to make the sea to shining sea a reality. Next time you're eating Cevapi and doing slavic things with your family, like killing babies or raping orphans, remember to bring up your Albanian ancestry. Convert them bitches. Branislav Sinadinovski has laid the foundation already.

Convert them to what, Islam?

Such is talk is dangerous for your people;

http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/arti...ard-10-11-2016

[Albobalboa]

Convert them to what, Islam?

Such is talk is dangerous for your people;

http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/arti...ard-10-11-2016

Was dangerous when there was no national structure. Such talk is absolutely not dangerous nowadays. If 2001 is anything to go by then it is clear Macedonians have some serious flaws when it comes to their military structure. Being pretty much equal with the insurgets in death toll of militants/military is definitely not a good sign. War is unlikely again though since Albanians are more involved in general Macedonian society, as policemen, soldiers etc.

Anyways it was more about converting them to speak Albanian and acknowledge Albanian ancestry rather than the Slavomacedonian. In general people should make the choice between Bulgarian and Albanian, the middle scenario is too boring.

[Crn Volk]

Was dangerous when there was no national structure. Such talk is absolutely not dangerous nowadays. If 2001 is anything to go by then it is clear Macedonians have some serious flaws when it comes to their military structure. Being pretty much equal with the insurgets in death toll of militants/military is definitely not a good sign. War is unlikely again though since Albanians are more involved in general Macedonian society, as policemen, soldiers etc.

Anyways it was more about converting them to speak Albanian and acknowledge Albanian ancestry rather than the Slavomacedonian. In general people should make the choice between Bulgarian and Albanian, the middle scenario is too boring.

Thanks to the Ohrid Agreement, Albanians are now firmly entrenched into Macedonian society. Albanians will remain Maqedoni, just as we will remain Makedonci - sorry to break it to you.

[poiuytrewq0987]

A shame Romanians weren't included in this test. They would have discovered a genetic continuum that included all the Slavic and Latin peoples from Kutmichevitsa to Basarabia.

The Macedonian population has the largest genetic distance against the Croatian population (0.2643), while the lowest against Bulgarian population. The neighbor-joining consensus tree constructed based on the results of the genetic distance analysis shows that the population of the Macedonian ethnic origin has possible highest similarity with the Bulgarian populations, and not such dissimilarity with the cluster which consists Bosnian and Herzegovinian-Serbian-Croatian populations, while the Kosovo population create a separate group.

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The first component PCA reveals that Macedonian population is genetically closest to the Bulgarian and partially Serbian population especially compared with Kosovo population. The second component PCA shows also the closest relation with Macedonian and Bulgarian populations.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/51105093_Genetic_data_for_17_Y-chromosomal_STR_loci_in_Macedonians_in_the_Republi c_of_Macedonia

[poiuytrewq0987]

Most South Slavs are separated from the rest of the Balto-Slavic populations and form a sparse group of populations with internal differentiation into western (Slovenians, Croatians and Bosnians) and eastern (Macedonians and Bulgarians) regions of the Balkan Peninsula with Serbians placed in-between (Fig 2A and 2B). The mean population pairwise genetic distances for South Slavs (DNei = 0.239 for NRY; FST = 0.0009 for autosomal data) (Tables A,B in S1 File) are comparable or higher to the ones for East Slavs despite the smaller region within the Balkan Peninsula that they occupy. Furthermore, Slovenians lie close to the non-Slavic-speaking Hungarians, whereas eastern South Slavs group is located together with non-Slavic-speaking but geographically neighboring Romanians and, to some extent, with Greeks.

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0135820

[Crn Volk]

Most South Slavs are separated from the rest of the Balto-Slavic populations and form a sparse group of populations with internal differentiation into western (Slovenians, Croatians and Bosnians) and eastern (Macedonians and Bulgarians) regions of the Balkan Peninsula with Serbians placed in-between (Fig 2A and 2B). The mean population pairwise genetic distances for South Slavs (DNei = 0.239 for NRY; FST = 0.0009 for autosomal data) (Tables A,B in S1 File) are comparable or higher to the ones for East Slavs despite the smaller region within the Balkan Peninsula that they occupy. Furthermore, Slovenians lie close to the non-Slavic-speaking Hungarians, whereas eastern South Slavs group is located together with non-Slavic-speaking but geographically neighboring Romanians and, to some extent, with Greeks.

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0135820

You're flogging a dead horse mate. Even if what you're saying is true, it doesn't matter - Serbs and Croats are genetically close for example - now go convince a Croat he is a Serb...good luck. There are other examples with nations also...try a different tact...

[poiuytrewq0987]

Serbs and Croats are genetically close

No, they're not.

[Crn Volk]

No, they're not.

Yes, they are. What about Russians, Belarussians and Ukrainians. Are they close in your opinion?

[poiuytrewq0987]

Yes, they are.

Nope, the Croatians cluster with Austro-Hungarian populations while the Serbians cluster with Balkan populations. However, the Serbs are clearly differentiated from the Daco-Thracians despite their Balkan grouping. Oh, and you can see Bulgarians and Macedonians (and Romanians) practically on top of each others in the same plots too.

[Crn Volk]

Nope, the Croatians cluster with Austro-Hungarian populations while the Serbians cluster with Balkan populations. However, the Serbs are clearly differentiated from the Daco-Thracians despite their Balkan grouping. Oh, and you can see Bulgarians and Macedonians (and Romanians) practically on top of each others in the same plots too.

I can see MK separate from BG and RO - not on top of them.
Any comment on the East Slavs?