Eurogenes Biogeographic Ancestry Project

[Loki]

My result:

10% Western-European
29% Finnish
0% Russian
61% Baltic

[Äike]

Certain Uralic elements seem to have entered North Eastern Europe pretty late, so he might be right.

The Comb-Ceramic Culture/Finno-Ugric people predate the Corded Ware culture/Indo-Europeans in North-Eastern Europe by 1300 years.

The gradual assimilation of the Finnic populations south of us(the Estonians) is proved by archeological evidence.

Estonians are practically the only representative of the former southern-Finnic group. As the Livonians are extinct/assimilated, the Votes are almost extinct and even further in the past, southern-Finnic populations were assimilated even more south(Lithuania, Belarus etc.)

Anyone who says that the Indo-Europeans predate the Finno-Ugrians in Northern-Europe is either an Indo-European fanatic/extremist or just dumb.

This isn't the question that people are thinking about. The main question is, did we arrive here around 10 000 BC or 4 200 BC? Few people(scientists) are bold enough to say that the Indo-Europeans predate anyone in Northern-Europe.

[Don Brick]

My results from the Intra-North European ADMIXTURE analysis.

34.2 % - Western European
41.5 % - Finnish
21.1 % - Russian
3.2 % Baltic

[Osweo]

.Intra-North European ADMIXTURE analysis.
....Western-European ...Finnish .....Russian .....Baltic
Loki .........0.743881 .. 0.110156 .. 0.145954 .. 0.00001
Karl .........0.10% ...... 0.29% ..... 0% .......... 0.61%
Don Draper 0.342 ....... 0.415 ....... 0.211 ...... 0.32
OSWEO......0.785143 .. 0.093324 .. 0.00001.... 0.121523

Neolithic wave thingy;
KARL:
34.7% Basque
65.29% Chuvash
0% Armenian
0% Nganassan + Dolgan + Yukagir

OSWEO:
53.9665 Basque
46.0315 Chuvash
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[Don Brick]

New results y´all!

http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2011/0...-analysis.html

Mine:

45.3 % Finnish
27.8 % Western European
16.6 % Baltic
7.4 % North Atlantic
2.9 % Volga-Ural

[Olavsson]

Roughly:

78.3% North-Atlantic
20.3% Finnish
1.3% Volga-Ural
0.0% Baltic
0.0% Western-European

Why did I get 0% "Western European" this time? A bit confusing.

[Pallantides]

North Atlantic - 90.79%
Finnish - 6.77%
Volga Ural - 2.42%
Baltic - 0%
Western European - 0%


I'm the second most 'North Atlantic' Norwegian after NO9 and the second least 'Finnish' after NO3 on this run.

[Agrippa]

North Atlantic - 90.79%
Finnish - 6.77%
Volga Ural - 2.42%
Baltic - 0%
Western European - 0%


I'm the second most 'North Atlantic' Norwegian after NO9 and the second least 'Finnish' after NO3 on this run.

Must be a mistake

Interesting really, but looking at the results, I'm still least sure about the Finnish-Baltic distinction. Because it seems some people "jump" just on one side, in such a radical way in comparison to others, that it makes me still wonder how that can be and if the differentiation of Baltic and Finnic in particular is always that "clean".

[Pallantides]

K-4


K-5



Lemminkäinen response to my results on ABF:

This K5 weights Nothern Russians and Irish references and have less Central European components. As result you have much North Atlantic and Finns have much common with Northern Russians. And you have Uralics, but not Baltic admix, because of less Central European components. But I dont know is it better or worse than some other results. I wnder however that Swedes have 6.5% Western European and 65% Atlantic admix.

[Äike]

New results y´all!

http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2011/0...-analysis.html

Mine:

45.3 % Finnish
27.8 % Western European
16.6 % Baltic
7.4 % North Atlantic
2.9 % Volga-Ural

My results:

Finnish: 32.1%
Baltic: 60.2%
Western-European 0%
Volga-Ural 0%
North-Atlantic 7.5%

Interesting really, but looking at the results, I'm still least sure about the Finnish-Baltic distinction. Because it seems some people "jump" just on one side, in such a radical way in comparison to others, that it makes me still wonder how that can be and if the differentiation of Baltic and Finnic in particular is always that "clean".

That's Polako for you...

As I stated earlier, "southern-Finnic" is more dominant in that "Baltic" group than anything else.

At least Polako changed his "labels". Before Finnish was Finnic and completely Finnic Estonians could have scored very low in the Finnic area, because they are the last remaining southern-Finnics together with the Votes and the extinct Livonians. He only had Finns in his Finnic group, no other Finnic people. For him Finns = Finnic, while in reality, the proto-Finnic area was somewhere south-east of modern-day Finland and Finns are "peripheral" Finnic people. The core Finnic group has been assimilated by the Russians and the Balts ages ago. There was an article about this somewhere.

By the way, I have dozens of Finnish relatives on 23andme and I am even related to a Finnish member of this forum, while I have no Baltic cousins. The first people in my cousin's list are all Estonians, then come the Finns.