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    Quote Originally Posted by Governor View Post
    In the first picture, the horse rider exactly looks like Iranian.
    Culturally, hairstyle was so important. I think hairstyle meant ethnicity, or assimilation or obedience. That is why foreign invader changed the hairstyle of locals. Moreover, Nomad people didn't care about their ethnicity. Stealing women is just a their routine job, hence their phenotypes and genotypes were changed. However, they kept their tradition. I think we should find their identity in the above mentioned culture.

    Avar people's hair stlye.


    - the hairstyle of Maygar was a little different.
    Maygar people shaved their head except three long braids. you can see the braids of maygar horseman also.
    https://books.google.ca/books?id=dvV...20long&f=false


    - And that traditions continued recently:

    Traditional Slavic Hair Styles: http://www.slavorum.org/forum/discus...ale-and-female


    Yazidi man with plaited hair. Northern Iraq:


    ===> They were all central asian hairstyles including west and east scythians. You live in Canada, you can get a picture of where whole hairstyles came from.

    ===> maybe, 5,000y ago Indoeuroepan also had one of the hairstyles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manzikert View Post
    what is so funny? I am looking for scythian tradition, especially original central asia culture. I don't care about ethnicity. Scythian were crossing caucasus mountain to defeat Assyrian empire, so they can have had scythian culture until now.
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    I think Pazyryk Scythians Y-Dna N1b originated in NO of okunevo.

    Afanasevo Culture, 3600-2600 BC
    R1b1a2-M269, R1b1a2-M269, R1b1a(xR1b1a1 M73)

    Bol'shemysskaya Culture. Eneolithic.
    R1b1a2-M269

    Okunevo Culture, 2300-1800 BC
    NO(xO), NO(xO), NO(xO), Q1a3a-L54, Q1a3-M346(xL54), R1b1a2-M269.

    Munkh-Khairkhan Culture, 1700-1400 BC
    NO(xO), NO(xO)

    Sagsai Culture, 1400-900 BC
    Q1a3a-L54, Q1a3a-L54, Q1a3a-L54, R1a-Z93, R1a-Z93, R1a-Z93, C-M130
    The Late Scythian population considered in this study proved to be genetically homogeneous, although some connections with the Sarmatians were found. We also revealed similarities between the Scythian groups and the local Bronze Age population of the Srubnaya culture, as well as, to a lesser extent, a group representative of the Central Asian Bronze Age Okunevo culture.
    Craniometrically, prehistoric populations of Gorny Altai are mostly intermediate between Mongoloid and Caucasoid populations. Genetically, individuals from Neolithic and Bronze Age burials display only Western Eurasian mtDNA haplotypes.
    The morphological trait combination that is predominant among the Pazyryk tribes appears to be autochthonous and probably derives from the Neolithic population of Gorny Altai and from people associated with an Okunev-type culture (Karakol).
    see the gene flow from okunevo thru karasuk to iron age Altai(scythian)

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    N-ice. Scythian was a generic name used for all people in the steppes. Not precisely an ethnic reference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harkonnen View Post
    If I'm not mistaken we are talking here about the famous Ukok Ice "Princess" and the rest of "her" posse burials?

    So, big deal, she looks like Glenn Close, case closed

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