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    Quote Originally Posted by gültekin View Post
    As far as I know, high elite scythian had tattoo. The queen's tattoo looks like reindeer, which might be connected with N1b.

    see this scythian artifact, which the horse wore at that time.
    http://www.horsenation.com/2015/02/0...-on-horseback/

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    Quote Originally Posted by johen View Post
    As far as I know, high elite scythian had tattoo. The queen's tattoo looks like reindeer, which might be connected with N1b.

    see this scythian artifact, which the horse wore at that time.
    http://www.horsenation.com/2015/02/0...-on-horseback/
    How fascinating isn't? and totaly agree about reindeer, definitely a sign of north eurasians

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valtaves View Post
    What is your opinion, are these remains IE?
    Yes, but guy not


    There is a tendency in archaelogy (and linguistics) to claim pretty much everything from certain period in time and from certain kind of remains of flesh, blood, pots and culture as IE. There may be some uncertainty in this.
    Language and wares are a different thing - will never know for sure, what language they speak.

    Wiki page for N is crap. It's either written by some angry wog, or pothead chinaman


    Absorb and accept your Finchurian origin, like all finnocentrists did in the past.
    Then you'll easier deal with reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gültekin View Post
    more like N1b reality
    Reality, that guy existed.
    None reality that he found himself in the wrong tribe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    Yes, but guy not




    Language and wares are a different thing - will never know for sure, what language they speak.


    You fucking Polak Retard, you do understand your two answers contradict each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    Reality, that guy existed.
    None reality that he found himself in the wrong tribe.
    you sound very disappointed, i feel your pain deep in my heart

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    Quote Originally Posted by johen View Post
    As far as I know, high elite scythian had tattoo. The queen's tattoo looks like reindeer, which might be connected with N1b.

    see this scythian artifact, which the horse wore at that time.
    http://www.horsenation.com/2015/02/0...-on-horseback/
    If the N1b is connected with Proto-Samoyedic expansion from Volga to Siberia, then there should be no reason to connect N1b with reindeer. As far as I know, there should be no reindeers in Volga, tho I might wrong. The natural habitat does probably boarder quite close to the proposed Uralic Urheimat. In any case there is no reconstructed proto-word for reindeer in Uralic, it rather seems to be loaned from IE at some point.

    On the other hand reindeer, for some reason, does seem to be quite widespread in the whole scythian/sarmatian world. So in that sense, if that cultural package was also part of samoyedic early on. Then maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gültekin View Post
    How fascinating isn't? and totaly agree about reindeer, definitely a sign of north eurasians


    https://books.google.ca/books?id=Cnm...public&f=false

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valtaves View Post
    If the N1b is connected with Proto-Samoyedic expansion from Volga to Siberia, then there should be no reason to connect N1b with reindeer. As far as I know, there should be no reindeers in Volga, tho I might wrong. The natural habitat does probably boarder quite close to the proposed Uralic Urheimat. In any case there is no reconstructed proto-word for reindeer in Uralic, it rather seems to be loaned from IE at some point.

    On the other hand reindeer, for some reason, does seem to be quite widespread in the whole scythian/sarmatian world. So in that sense, if that cultural package was also part of samoyedic early on. Then maybe.
    I think N1b people migrated from central asia or manchu to volga siberia.

    According to Eurogenes K-12 run we have the following admixture results from Altai:

    Okunevo (3800 BP) RISE515, female mtDNA A8a: Nganasan 27%, Naxi 0%, European HG 16%, Afanasievo 30%, Atayal 5%, Pulliyar 0%, Chukchi 4%, Karitiana 18%

    Karasuk (c. 1500-1000 BC) RISE497, female mtDNA A+152+16362: Nganasan 56%, Naxi 19%, European HG 0%, Afanasievo 11%, Atayal 0%, Pulliyar 0%, Chukchi 7%, Karitiana 7%

    Iron Age Afontova Gora (c. 1000 BC) RISE554, male yDNa N-Y6503 (according to Genetiker), mtDNA F1b1b: Nganasan 58%, Naxi 0%, European HG 6%, Afanasievo 17%, Atayal 0%, Pulliyar 0%, Chukchi 8%, Karitiana 12%

    Iron Age Altai RISE600, male yDNA Q1a1b-M25, mtDNA K2a5: Nganasan 25%, Naxi 2%, European HG 13%, Afanasievo 39%, Atayal 5%, Pulliyar 3%, Chukchi 6%, Karitiana 6%


    Modern Altaian: Nganasan 34%, Naxi 36%, European HG 8%, Afanasievo 15%, Atayal 0%, Pulliyar 1%, Chukchi 1%, Bedouin 1,5%, Karitiana 2,6%

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    Quote Originally Posted by gültekin View Post
    you sound very disappointed, i feel your pain deep in my heart
    What's funnier is that the fact he doesn't even know what his ancestors practiced ;

    Lechistan can't be free untill the Turks horses drink from river Oder .



    Lechistan was a -stan country too .

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