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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmara View Post
    No he isn't, his skin color fits here perfectly. There is an "Iranic" skin texture which exists among some Kurds and other Iranics, and looks very exotic regardless pigmentation. He doesn't have it.

    This is a good example of the skin texture. Although a Turkmen, he has it and seems to be very Iranic influenced and doesn't pass Turkish at all.

    Where is his eyes??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadouken View Post
    why do you think I am complexed ? what gives you this idea if I may ask

    there are not that many iranians and afghans and especially not pakistanis that pass in turkey . you dont need to say this to make yourself look good . we both know that it is not true . you should change the "many" with "some" . but iranians and afghans are very darkwashed and mispresented that one is true for sure

    cenk uygur is not that dark . the pic is not the best and he could be tanned too . he is not that dark tbh



    main phenotype of turks is not turanid either wtf are you talking about again . I dont understand you . turanid is a common type but most common ? nope

    look I posted a video of turks for example today



    I dont know what you mean by frecklish skin among kurds . it seems you discovered something for yourself .

    but you often talk nonsense about kurds and make too controversial statments which I have to say something to . this has nothing to do with complexes . I am 32 kid ...and I am very happy with my own look and my people . otherwise I wouldnt post our faces so easily . I am just annoyed by certain things and that we are often misrepresented thats all . and people like you dont help that case
    You are misrepresenting Kurds yourself.

    I'm pretty sure i've seen and met more Kurds than you did. I grew up in a district of İstanbul which had many Kurds, in elementary and middle school my school was full of Kurds, i had countless Kurdish friends, i still have and i still see many Kurds. There are two types of Kurds.

    No.1 is West Asian looking ones who pass in Turkey and Caucasia, and no.2 who are exotic darker Afghan-looking ones who stand out greately. You claim that every Kurd looks like no.1 and deny all no.2 Kurds despite the Iranic root of Kurds. I don't darkwash Kurds or don't misrepresent them. I've also seen many blonde blue eyed Kurds.

    There are also central-asian looking Turks but you don't see any Turk denying it in fact emphasizing it.



    I said regular Anatolians are usually Turanid, or at least greately influenced which is true, Turkey is not composed of only Anatolians there are many Balkan and Caucasian immigrants and people with mixed heritage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmara View Post
    You are misrepresenting Kurds yourself.

    I'm pretty sure i've seen and met more Kurds than you did. I grew up in a district of İstanbul which had many Kurds, in elementary and middle school my school was full of Kurds, i had countless Kurdish friends, i still have and i still see many Kurds. There are two types of Kurds.

    No.1 is West Asian looking ones who pass in Turkey and Caucasia, and no.2 who are exotic darker Afghan-looking ones who stand out greately. You claim that every Kurd looks like no.1 and deny all no.2 Kurds despite the Iranic root of Kurds. I don't darkwash Kurds or don't misinterprate them. I've also seen many blonde blue eyed Kurds.

    There are also central-asian looking Turks but you don't see any Turk denying it in fact emphasizing it.



    I said regular Anatolians are usually Turanid, or at least greately influenced which is true, Turkey is not composed of only Anatolians there are many Balkan and Caucasian immigrants and people with mixed heritage.
    I am not mispresenting kurds at all . look at my signature link there are enough exotic people I posted . I also posted even older men with mustaches etc. . . look at the videos

    darker afghan looking kurds are either very rare or might not even exist . I think you might just be mislabeling them . I would need to know and see your friends to say something

    blonde kurds are rare too

    most kurds look like what I posted in my link . I know my people better than you because I am a kurd . trust me being kurd makes me more knowledged even though we both are from turkey . I am from tunceli and I am typical for my province ...even on the darker side a little and most turks that meet me dont even guess me kurdish ....I can show you how tunceli people look . we dont have arabs and gypsies living with us . many of the pics I posted are also from districts which are pure kurdish from van etc.

    people also wrongly like to post ibrahim tatlises as typical kurd for example even though he looks heavily arab and has an arab father . here in germany my friend had a guy in his class who was gypsy from iraq but claimed to be kurdish (I often told this story) . we are very misrepresented . I also think that some kurds are mixed with arabs and domari gypsies in certain areas

    that man you posted looks normal for turkey he doesnt look particulary central asian imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myanthropologies View Post
    When people say "Afghan," they probably think of Afghan Pashtuns and Tajiks. However, a lot of people who are Afghan do not belong to those two ethnicities, approximately 40% of Afghans do not. All these ethnic groups are just as Afghan as one another. This thread is to help people recognize the full diversity of people in Afghanistan, a very misunderstood country. All the Afghan ethnic groups are beautiful.

    INB4 "AFGHANISTAN IS NOT IN THE MIDDLE EAST!!!!"' Yes, I know that, but this was the least of the bad sections available.

    Pashtuns




    Pashtuns are the main ethnic group in Afghanistan. They are an Eastern Iranian people, who's language closely related to Pamiri. Approximately 42% of Afghans are pashtuns. More Pashtuns live in neighboring Pakistan than in Afghanistan. This is due to the Duranid Line boundary issue which was created which divided former Afghan land. However, most Afghan and Pakistani Pashtuns ignore the border and treat it as Afghan land to this day.

    Pashtuns are a very tribal people and their culture is formed on the base of pashtunwali code



    The culture itself is obviously largely Iranian, but has influences from the Greeks, Indians, Turkics, and Arabs (if you count religion).

    One of the biggest non-religious holidays is the persian Norwuz (Persian new year). This holiday is celebrated widely. Albanians, Tatars, Persians, Uzbeks, Tatars, Turks, Pashtuns, Balochis, Kazakhs, Parsis, Georgians, Azeris, Tabassarans, Tajiks, Lezgins, Lurs, Talyshs, Ossetians, Ughyurs, and many other ethnic groups around the area celebrate this holiday as well. It is an highly Iranic holiday and stems from our ancient religion (Zorostrianism), but also celebrated by people in the Balkans and Russia as well. It is usually celebrated around March 21st every year. So this holiday is celebrated by not only the pashtuns but virtually almost everyone in Afghanistan.

    Tajiks



    Afghan Tajiks are the second largest ethnic group in Afghanistan. They make up roughly a quarter of Afghanistan's population. Tajiks speak an Eastern Persian dialect called "Dari." This is also one of the official languages of Afghanistan.

    Tajiks are less tribal than Pashtuns, but they are a very interesting people. Their culture greatly overlaps with pashtuns in terms of traditions, languages, and culture. They are the closest ethnic group to Afghan Pashtuns in terms of everything.

    Pamiri Tajiks also fall under this, but I'll give them their own section.

    Hazaras



    Hazaras in Afghanistan are Persian speaking. Hazaras are descended from mongolian settlers who mixed with the local population. Depsite becoming pashtunified and persianified, many have retained their original Turkic customs and still practice them in Afghanistan, and it is beautiful. Hazaras tie with Uzbeks in being the third largest population(s) in Afghanistan. Hazaras and Uzbeks both individually make up 9% of Afghanistan's population, (meaning together, they make up 18%).

    Uzbeks



    Uzbeks, like Pashtuns, are a tribal people. Afghanistan has the second largest Uzbek population, and Uzbeks and Afghans go way back. Uzbeks are a Turanid Turkic ethnic group who have strong ties to the Central Asian steepe. As mentioned earlier, Uzbeks make up 9% of Afghans, and tie with Hazaras in being the third largest afghan population. Uzbeks in Afghanistan are a mixture of recent migrants and some are there from historic times some the fall of many Persian and Central Asian empires.

    Though Uzbeks have a large affinity to Iranics, they are a Turkic people and have retained a lot of their Turkic culture.

    Aimaq



    The Aimaqs are a Persian speaking people. They are extremely similar to Hazaras, with the exception of the Aimaqs being Sunni Muslim and not Shiia Muslim like the Hazaras are.


    Turkmens




    The Turkmens who speak a Turkic language make up 3% of Afghans and are known for being extremely moderate and laidback muslims.

    Balochis




    The Balochis are another Eastern Iranian people, being somewhat similar to Pashtuns and Tajiks. They make up 2% of Afghans. They speak Balochi.

    Pamiris


    Pamiri Tajiks are extremely linguistically and ethnically close to Afghan Pashtuns and Tajiks. They also share ties with other Central Asians as well, culturally, since they are spread out across Afghanistan, Tajikstan, and even China.


    Nuristanis



    The Nuristanis live in Eastern Afghanistan. They are interesting in that they are not Iranic, but their own sub-branch of Indo-Iranian called "Nuristani." They were said to be descended from the Greeks, but genetics have proved that the Kalash (who are probably more or less similar to a good portion Nuristanis) are genetically related to other populations in the area and don't have connections with Greeks. The rumor of them descending from Greeks probably stemmed from the Nuristanis having a high rate of blondism (which is weird cause Greeks aren't even known for being blonde). The Nuristanis and the Kalash have had in iffy history with Pashtuns and Indic groups, with both trying to assimilate them. The Nuristanis are now muslim, but the both the Kalash and the Nuristani have retained most of their culture and have done a good job preserving the original indo-aryan cultures of AfghanIstan.

    Other ethnic groups in Afghanistan include Arabs, Gujjars, and Brahuis, who make up 4% of Afghans together
    Dari and Baloochi are Western Iranian Language bro, do you actually read before you post stuff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadouken View Post
    I am not mispresenting kurds at all . look at my signature link there are enough exotic people I posted . I also posted even older men with mustaches etc. . . look at the videos

    darker afghan looking kurds are either very rare or might not even exist . I think you might just be mislabeling them . I would need to know and see your friends to say something

    blonde kurds are rare too

    most kurds look like what I posted in my link . I know my people better than you because I am a kurd . trust me being kurd makes me more knowledged even though we both are from turkey . I am from tunceli and I am typical for my province ...even on the darker side a little and most turks that meet me dont even guess me kurdish ....I can show you how tunceli people look . we dont have arabs and gypsies living with us . many of the pics I posted are also from districts which are pure kurdish from van etc.

    people also wrongly like to post ibrahim tatlises as typical kurd for example even though he looks heavily arab and has an arab father . here in germany my friend had a guy in his class who was gypsy from iraq but claimed to be kurdish (I often told this story) . we are very misrepresented . I also think that some kurds are mixed with arabs and domari gypsies in certain areas

    that man you posted looks normal for turkey he doesnt look particulary central asian imo
    Ibrahim Tatlıses isn't typical Kurdish, but do you want me to post those more Eastern looking Kurds? I think you've already seen me posting one.





    These faces are usually stereotyped to be typical Kurds here because they are the ones standing out the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmara View Post
    Ibrahim Tatlıses isn't typical Kurdish, but do you want me to post those more Eastern looking Kurds? I think you've already seen me posting one.





    These faces are usually stereotyped to be typical Kurds here because they are the ones standing out the most.
    ibrahim tatlises doesnt look kurdish . he has strong arab vibe

    these 2 men look very kurdish yes . I tried to incorporate such looks in my gallery though ? I dont know what you mean . but I dont post pkk pics because I dont want my gallery to have too much to do with political stuff etc. otherwise I would have posted also more of these types . but these types are a little special because they are some mountain adapted types from certain areas . many of us kurds look different

    female example


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadouken View Post
    ibrahim tatlises doesnt look kurdish . he has strong arab vibe

    these 2 men look very kurdish yes . I tried to incorporate such looks in my gallery though ? I dont know what you mean . but I dont post pkk pics because I dont want my gallery to have too much to do with political stuff etc. otherwise I would have posted also more of these types . but these types are a little special because they are some mountain adapted types from certain areas . many of us kurds look different

    female example

    Here, this is the freckleish skin texture i was talking about the whole time.



    I already said Ibrahim Tatlıses isn't typical Kurdish.

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    ^ that is nothing specifically "iranic" . just freckles

    bro ibrahim tatlises doesnt look kurdish . he doesnt look like an atypical kurd . he doesnt look kurdish


    and as I said in my gallery I have included all kind of kurdish looks and it is very accurate . you should carefully check it out again . and look members appreciate my work and know I am doing a good job https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post4946675

    and as I said I dont like to post pkk pics otherwise I would include more pics and post also some lighter types too like the freckled guy

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    btw. sorry for off topic myanthropologies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadouken View Post
    ^ that is nothing specifically "iranic" . just freckles
    He doesn't just have freckles, i've seen many Kurds like him, it's a special texture and easily identifiable

    bro ibrahim tatlises doesnt look kurdish . he doesnt look like an atypical kurd . he doesnt look kurdish
    But i already AGREE.

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