Should we jettison Northern Ireland?

**Wulfhere** · 09-19-2010, 01:09 PM

With no warning at all just pull out all the troops one day, and at the same time manhandle their insane MPs from the House of Commons, booting them out on their arse.

No one in Britain wants this hideous, cash-devouring millstone around their necks, and never did. Just pull out and forget about it.

**Loki** · 09-19-2010, 01:13 PM

Probably for the best, yes. What's the worst that can happen? The Irish aren't going to commit a genocide on them or anything.

**hereward** · 09-19-2010, 05:19 PM

Although I am without doubt a fervent adherent to English Independence, I do not wish for Northern Ireland to be 'Jettisoned' from the union. Such an act would be a disgusting betrayal to those on the union side, their contribution to WW1/WW2 was proportionately higher than any other British Isles contingent for instance.
I would like to believe that the nations of these Isles could come to some amicable settlement regarding this issue (present politicians excluded).
What I do not want is the present set up continuing; one solution has always been population exchange!

**poiuytrewq0987** · 09-19-2010, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by Loki

Probably for the best, yes. What's the worst that can happen? The Irish aren't going to commit a genocide on them or anything.

Kill the Unionist son of bitches!

**~~Albion~~** · 09-19-2010, 06:22 PM

No one in Britain wants this hideous, cash-devouring millstone around their necks, and never did. Just pull out and forget about it.

That's true, its only the Ulster Unionists who want it to stay, people in England, Wales and Scotland for the most part just think its more trouble than its worth, besides, its historically and part culturally Irish, Ireland is a stable and prosperous country so I don't see why Ireland can't have it.

Such an act would be a disgusting betrayal to those on the union side, their contribution to WW1/WW2 was proportionately higher than any other British Isles contingent for instance.

Bad things happen sometimes. Many people in Hong Kong wanted to remain "British" too, but sometimes things work against you.

**hereward** · 09-19-2010, 06:35 PM

Bad things happen sometimes. Many people in Hong Kong wanted to remain "British" too, but sometimes things work against you.

Of course, but Northern Ireland is NOT Hong Kong. If this situation is not handled seriously, you will see 'bad things' and I am not referring to the IRA etc. Nor am I even asking you to envisage the subsequent mess that would be Northern Ireland, think closer to home!
On the other side of the coin, maybe 'bad things' would be extremely advantageous for the Isles. A bit of blood letting might usher in a dose of reality for all inhabitants.

**Wyn** · 09-19-2010, 06:42 PM

I'm reasonably certain that to do so would violate the Belfast Agreement.

1. (1) It is hereby declared that Northern Ireland in its entirety remains
part of the United Kingdom and shall not cease to be so without the
consent of a majority of the people of Northern Ireland voting in a poll
held for the purposes of this section in accordance with Schedule 1.

**~~Albion~~** · 09-19-2010, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by Caedmon

I'm reasonably certain that to do so would violate the Belfast Agreement.

1. (1) It is hereby declared that Northern Ireland in its entirety remains
part of the United Kingdom and shall not cease to be so without the
consent of a majority of the people of Northern Ireland voting in a poll
held for the purposes of this section in accordance with Schedule 1.

Damn it. The Irish need a baby boom me thinks, 18 years time and a referendum latter.....

**~~Beorn~~** · 09-19-2010, 07:14 PM

1. (1) It is hereby declared that Northern Ireland in its entirety remains
part of the United Kingdom and shall not cease to be so without the
consent of a majority of the people of Northern Ireland voting in a poll
held for the purposes of this section in accordance with Schedule 1.

United Kingdom consists of England, Cornwall, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

If England gained independence along with Scotland and Wales, the United Kingdom ceases to exist. How can Northern Ireland decide whether to stay a part of something which no longer exists?

**Murphy** · 09-19-2010, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by celtabria

[. . .] besides, its historically and part culturally Irish,

The Unionist population is not partly Irish, it's fully Irish. We should not think of the Irish culture, ethnicity etcetera as a monolithic entity. A main problem with modern "loyalism"/Unionism however is the denial of their Irishness. For centuries Protestants considered themselves Irish, both those in support of Home Rule (a historical Protestant view point) and those in support of Parliamentary rule from London.

In Ireland there has always been two kinds of Irishmen (for the Protestant). Protestant Irishmen and Catholic Irishmen. This blarney of Ulster-Scots etcetera is a weak grasp at straws by a population that has sunk its self into such a siege mentality they have lost all grip on reality.

Ireland is a stable and prosperous country so I don't see why Ireland can't have it.

The recession put an end to that.