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    Default Free Will vs Determinism

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    Free Will : The ability to choose, think, and act voluntarily. For many philosophers, to believe in free will is to believe that human beings can be the authors of their own actions and to reject the idea that human actions are determined by external conditions or fate.

    Determinism : is the philosophical idea that every event or state of affairs, including every human decision and action, is the inevitable and necessary consequence of antecedent states of affairs.

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    This is what I believe in(essentially a combination of both Determinism and Free Will)

    IMO everything that happens is predetermined, since we're basically a complicated set of chemical/physical reactions ourselves. But the thing is we don't know what is going to happen next, and therefore that element of uncertainty, makes our existence effectively a form of Free Will.

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    If there would be any god which is - as most say - almighty, then only determinism is logically possible.

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    We have free will because our human brain can make decisions that can go against our genetic programming. An ant for example, dosen't have free will.

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    the Term "Together" means simply that someone decides for you...

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    Nice topic. I love this thread already.

    Where is the "Compatibilist" option.

    I am a compatibilist. I believe free will is an illusions and that we are ultimately not the authors of our thoughts and actions, but we ought to be responsible for them.
    I define free will in the following space: there is a difference between me asking you to leave the room and dragging you out of the room against your voluntary acts of volition to resist the assault on you. Free will in a compatibilist sense exists within that space. It is a redefined notion of free will that we ought to care about whether we are compatibilists or determinists.

    Most philosophers are compatibilists.
    Most scientists are determinists.

    Free will is a subject of Metaphysics, which is a discipline of Philosophy.

    Being compatibilist doesn't mean you don't believe in determinism, but the whole point of it is to make free will compatible with determinism (in the rigorous definition of the word "determined").

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    I think free will is more realistic than determinism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin View Post
    I think free will is more realistic than determinism
    Why so? What reasons do you give?
    Only a minority of philosophers think Liberarian Free Will exists.

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    Neither, I am a compatibalist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petros Agapetos View Post
    Why so? What reasons do you give?
    Only a minority of philosophers think Liberarian Free Will exists.
    well free certainly exists. External factors certainly play a role in what you decide to do. But ultimately is your choice. Some things you obviously have no choice but to do things like eat to survive. But even some extreme cases people can starve themselves to death. And some rare instances like some people who live with out eating.



    The future is highly variable and so is the world. To say something like the future is only one path is narrow minded. Theres limitless of pointless possibilities and why there is also the concept of alternate realities or different timeline / futures that branch off. Also the laws that apply in our universe might not apply the same to another. There could be other Universe. Most of the world is made up of Dark matter which we don't even understand what it is yet. We cannot see it either really.

    Edit Dark energy I mean. The universe is estimated to be 27 percent dark matter

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