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    What a strange question, lol. Women tend to be very emotional creatures, yes, but that doesn't mean they aren't capable of thinking and contributing to the society like men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    These elections are very important to the future of not only the US, but the world.

    If only men are voting, Trump should win by a large margin. But add female votes, and Hillary comes out on top.

    Is this fair, considering that the vast majority of politicians and soldiers who fight for the country are men?
    I think you asking the wrong question. It should be about whether absolute democracy (as voting rights given automatically past certain age) be considered an absolute good or should there be some limitations to voting based on intellect or contribution of person to society.

    Myself I tend to think there should be certain limits but the criteria for them shouldn't be sex or social status. Our society is sophisticated enough to develop reasonable threshold for issuing voting rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danielion View Post
    Turkey introduced women's suffrage before any Euro nation.
    You're wrong.

    Regarding the topic, yes, women should have a right to vote as they do already. Mentioning American elections as an argument here isn't a good choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bezprym View Post
    You're wrong.

    Regarding the topic, yes, women should have a right to vote as they do already. Mentioning American elections as an argument here isn't a good choice.
    Could you also specify which Euro nation? I just shared it as trivia upon noticing a Turkish girl commented here about backward sexism. Not praising Turkey or calling it better.

    In the world I believe New Zeeland was the first to introduce the right to vote for women, but in Europe most introduced it only after WW2.

    EDIT: I'm in a crowded tram and only had the opportunity to look it up now. The Grandduchy of Finland (Russian protectorate) and Norway were earlier than Turkey (which didn't exist yet as a republic).
    Last edited by Dandelion; 10-20-2016 at 02:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danielion View Post
    Could you also specify which Euro nation? I just shared it as trivia upon noticing a Turkish girl commented here about backward sexism. Not praising Turkey or calling it better.

    In the world I believe New Zeeland was the first to introduce the right to vote for women, but in Europe most introduced it only after WW2.

    EDIT: I'm in a crowded tram and only had the opportunity to liok it up now. The Grandduchy of Finland (Russian protectorate) and Norway were earlier than Turkey (which didn't exist yet as a republic).
    1906 - Finland
    1913 - Norway
    1915 - Iceland
    1915 - Denmark
    1917 - Russia
    1917 - Ukraine
    1917 - Belarus
    1917 - Latvia
    1917 - Estonia
    1918 - Poland
    1918 - Lithuania
    1918 - Germany
    1918 - Austria
    1918 - Moldova
    1919 - the Netherlands
    1919 - United Kingdom
    1919 - Hungary
    1919 - Luxembourg
    1920 - Albania
    1920 - Czechoslovakia
    1921 - Sweden
    1922 - Ireland
    1931 - Portugal
    1931 - Spain

    If you count the countries on Caucasus as European too, then all three should be mentioned here too.

    Turkey gave women rights to vote fully in 1934.

    Grand Principality of Finland was the first European country to acknowledge women's suffrage, although the term "country" may be slightly deceiving here as it was (as you said) a part of Russia, although with huge autonomy. The first independent country in Europe which gave rights to vote for women was Norway.

    Poland, for example, gave rights to vote for women directly after regaining its independence in 1918, and in the next year first women were elected to the Sejm.

    Also, the first places in Europe where women were granted suffrage were Corsica in 1755 and Isle of Man in 1881.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    No, no one should be able to vote, except landed aristocracy.
    +1

    gas the Jew merchants

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bezprym View Post
    1906 - Finland
    1913 - Norway
    1915 - Iceland
    1915 - Denmark
    1917 - Russia
    1917 - Ukraine
    1917 - Belarus
    1917 - Latvia
    1917 - Estonia
    1918 - Poland
    1918 - Lithuania
    1918 - Germany
    1918 - Austria
    1918 - Moldova
    1919 - the Netherlands
    1919 - United Kingdom
    1919 - Hungary
    1919 - Luxembourg
    1920 - Albania
    1920 - Czechoslovakia
    1921 - Sweden
    1922 - Ireland
    1931 - Portugal
    1931 - Spain

    If you count the countries on Caucasus as European too, then all three should be mentioned here too.

    Turkey gave women rights to vote fully in 1934.

    Grand Principality of Finland was the first European country to acknowledge women's suffrage, although the term "country" may be slightly deceiving here as it was (as you said) a part of Russia, although with huge autonomy. The first independent country in Europe which gave rights to vote for women was Norway.

    Poland, for example, gave rights to vote for women directly after regaining its independence in 1918, and in the next year first women were elected to the Sejm.

    Also, the first places in Europe where women were granted suffrage were Corsica in 1755 and Isle of Man in 1881.
    Alright. It's Grand Principality, not Grand-duchy. I was on my phone when I wrote that. I know Atatürk ultimately copied Western ideas and civilisation. That's just a fact about the man.

    EDIT: Belgium: 1948 lol. Curiously, Socialists were against women's suffrage because they feared women would be too easily swayed by the Catholic Church because of their supposed erratic emotional nature, just like people now think women are too prone for leftist parties. This was after seeing women's voting behaviour in polls though. They were among the front-runners for women's voting rights before, but they abstained from their support out of political realism (setting aside their principles lol).
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    Already Turkey removed sultanate 1922 and declared republican regime in 1923. It is not interesting not see giving vote right before that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoxhaism View Post
    the vast majority of "americans" don't belong to america.

    I don't understand why americans are so against muslim immigration, the country has always been a country riped off of the natives, and ever since has been a melting pot of different cultures.

    There is no "american" culture.
    Oh fuck off

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    The only woman who should be allowed to vote is Etain.

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